Rife Again.

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

you will be a new man after it you will be doing marathons the lot lol seriously good luck  

[Guest IB]

I'm not sure that I can follow the thinking on not feeding youngbirds at home to stop them being sick in the race basket during transit? Or agree with the negative comments made by some about those fanciers that do feed their youngsters?

 

I feed twice-a-day, but on basketing days I give one light feed before 2pm. The idea is basically to get them to drink, because from what I've seen, young birds are very reluctant to drink in the race basket, and I think dehydration causes more losses than being sick, which I'd put down to nerves, which can empty even an empty crop - and I'd say that was caused by insufficient basket training & settle time.  

 

 

[blackdog]

they will be fed the night before also pigeons are watered in the baskets should we also stop this as many disease is spread through the drinkers

 

 

no but we could put something in the water like electrolites to help the youngsters on hot days mate, common sense

 

 

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

well iv had my birds fed a few times before training them and been doing 120mph up the motorway and they have never been sick once in the basket i dont see why people would send birds with a full crop anyway as it cant be good for trapping

[Guest IB]

no but we could put something in the water like electrolites to help the youngsters on hot days mate, common sense

 

Think you'll find doing that will have the opposite effect. On hot days the birds need nothing more than constant access to water. They don't get constant access simply because the transporter watering facilities are outdated, e.g. no water when the vehicle is moving?

 

 

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

 

no but we could put something in the water like electrolites to help the youngsters on hot days mate, common sense

 

 

they dont they just get water straight

 

[blackdog]

i dont see why people would send birds with a full crop anyway as it cant be good for trapping

 

 

now were on the same wave lenth

[white logan]

well iv had my birds fed a few times before training them and been doing 120mph up the motorway and they have never been sick once in the basket i dont see why people would send birds with a full crop anyway as it cant be good for trapping

 

you have been doing 120mph !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your full of something more than what the birds are passing mate , they could not be sick at that speed because of the "G"forces ;D ;D ;D ;D

[mark]

well iv had my birds fed a few times before training them and been doing 120mph up the motorway and they have never been sick once in the basket i dont see why people would send birds with a full crop anyway as it cant be good for trapping

 

120mph that's pretty nippy for a robin reliant.

[white logan]

 

120mph that's pretty nippy for a robin reliant.

 

that why reliants were called "plastic rockets" and "tuppawear" GTs  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

 

120mph that's pretty nippy for a robin reliant.

 

i use a horse and cart  

 

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

 

you have been doing 120mph !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your full of something more than what the birds are passing mate , they could not be sick at that speed because of the "G"forces ;D ;D ;D ;D

the g force keeps  the food down my birds are used to flying at that speed  

 

 

[white logan]

the g force keeps  the food down my birds are used to flying at that speed  

 

 

i hope they never fly backwards , you would definately loose them up their own ar$£$ ;D

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

;D

[Guest slugmonkey]

I have heard this feeding argument several times

and for the records I feed sometimes before race so much so that we refer to it as golfballing ( as if the bird ate a golfball )  

the problem aint with guys that feed a lot often its with the guys that starve then try to make up a weeks feeding in one day !!!!!!!

we have a member who was complaining about it once and on a long race we put his birds in a seperate section on truck guess what ... the idiot was feeding peanuts on race day we know because they were all over the floor section on the truck !!!  on a another time there was some guys that sent hungry birds on a 150 mile race I sent full craws, it got a little off and the secratery called to push figuring times back because of poor arrivals well I had 25 of 28 in I got 27 home in race time with only 52 reported out of 267 birds

you have to have your birds used to this in order to make it work but if you allow them to gorge regurarly they will be fine

[Guest Owen]

HighSpeedLofts

I don't know where you are getting your information from. From the rubbish that you have put on this thread, it is obvious to me that you have'nt got a clue. If you have been feeding your birds before they go into the basket they have been sick. For you to try to convince people otherwise is sheer fantasy. And when it comes to churning out rubbish you definately are the champion. Why don't you try to discuss things instead of trying to bully your way through this fantacy world of yours. Pigeons who are harbouring disease are far more likely to throw up than healthy birds, so they are very likely to share their disease with the other occupants of the basket. One of the most prominent symptoms of YBS is that birds hold grain in their crop. So it follows that they will be the ones most likely to throw up. I accept that the Owners do not always know that there bird is about to be ill but the least they can do is to make sure they do not put any bird into the basket that is carrying food in it's crop. It is very basic hygene really that even the inexperienced or ignorant Fancier can manage.

[edwards]

we vaccinate for pmv vital i vaccinate for salmonella its vital to me anyway the rest of the year is the odd canker threment and wormer nothing but natural from there on in and my birds are protected from other birds that might not be 100% thats why i vaccinate and i dont have your problems in our club birds sent with food in them are in seperate hampers hampers for birds with food and hampers for birds with no food simple no arguing all our members are happy its that simple .

[swilcox]

Its purely the case that the stress has gone up and the desease moves in!!!!

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

HighSpeedLofts

I don't know where you are getting your information from. From the rubbish that you have put on this thread, it is obvious to me that you have'nt got a clue. If you have been feeding your birds before they go into the basket they have been sick. For you to try to convince people otherwise is sheer fantasy. And when it comes to churning out rubbish you definately are the champion. Why don't you try to discuss things instead of trying to bully your way through this fantacy world of yours. Pigeons who are harbouring disease are far more likely to throw up than healthy birds, so they are very likely to share their disease with the other occupants of the basket. One of the most prominent symptoms of YBS is that birds hold grain in their crop. So it follows that they will be the ones most likely to throw up. I accept that the Owners do not always know that there bird is about to be ill but the least they can do is to make sure they do not put any bird into the basket that is carrying food in it's crop. It is very basic hygene really that even the inexperienced or ignorant Fancier can manage.

what are you on about my birds never be sick and if you read the thread properly  i said iv fed mine  a few times before training not racing never do not for fear of them being sick just i like my birds to come in when they come home.

 

 

[Roland]

 

no but we could put something in the water like electrolites to help the youngsters on hot days mate, common sense

Why :-/ to dehydrate them more?

I would be more than peeved of if that ever happen to mine.

[blackdog]

 

no but we could put something in the water like electrolites to help the youngsters on hot days mate, common sense

Why :-/ to dehydrate them more?

I would be more than peeved of if that ever happen to mine.

 

 

roland, now youve got me confused mate, i thought putting electrolites in the water stopped them getting dehydrated so i must have been doing wrong all these years putting in water on friday & saturday, but eh the birds recover faster than if i put just plain water in  especially on hot days but everyones different i suppose but it works for me and i would guess 90% of fanciers.

 

 

 

 

[Roland]

Fine Blackdog. And I of course have no qualms as to what and why you do, or believe. Only point I was making was A. I wouldn't want that for love or money. Have never used them or ever will. For reasons explained by two world renowned Vets and Pigeon fanciers.

Hence the part you stated as if it was A. A good thing, and B. everyone would - pigeons - benefit. Think that's a bit much.  Was of on a long spout lol.... which shouldn't be on this thread.