Rife Again.

[greenlands]

With the first young bird race next weekend for our Federation I think there will be a lot of fancies NOT sending.Young bird sickness has struck again and most fanciers that i've spoken to have birds that have been affected with it or just getting over it.In this day and age surely the powers that be ,be it RPRA. NEHU.SU. and so on should realise that before long they are going to be the governing body of no one.The lads and lasses in this area seem to get it just before racing, all the hard work training down the spout,fed up of forking money out for for stuff that doesn't stop them getting this problem.It's alright saying you can sort it in x number of days but a couple of week in a young bird season is a long time.There's a hawk watch which does exactly nothing appart from take a page up in the BHW.I could just about fill a page with the strikes round my village,why don't they have a young bird sickness watch and get something done about it.JMO.

Lindsay C.

[Guest numpty01]

because even if they did noone would be intrested would they lets be realistic? off all the strikes of hawks a week how maney are in the bhw i have had birds 44years but am now convinced this sport is doomed why because we the fancier are so full apathy we cant be bothered and the ones that are soon give up trying inject youer birds of coarse i do how dare you ask they say ?? so were did you get vacc from ummmmate got it for me yea okay

[blackdog]

got to agree with you lindsay, went to papes corn merchents today, says 3 more members had been in before me and all had it, said when he came back from training yesterday 12 lofts away, (usually about 50) there was feed in 2 baskets and feed in trailer, why do fanciers not notice the change in the birds appetite or when out exercising because when i get it this is the 1st 2 things that happen, they probably get right out of bed with sleep in there eyes and just basket them. p.s i bet these same (fanciers) will have birds away on friday night, crazy, what needs to be done is the person ringing the birds should check to see if they have feed on them and if so dont let them go.

[greenlands]

You've hit the nail on the head "doomed",it's a shame such a good sport is going downhill fast.Use to be 36 members in the club i'm in,another club had to join us to keep both clubs going,now 6 members?????.Most clubs in this area are the same.

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

what exactly is young bird sickness iv been lucky enough to never have had it what causes it and whats the treatment for it

[Guest numpty01]

well our club had 28 members most being nat winners now there is 12 down the rd is another with 10 will they join not chance in hell so soon they will both be gone as each want there way the same as rest fancy another ten years and grandad will say to grankids???when i was lad i flew pigeons and they wont have a clue what he is on about

[Turk]

may it be fluoride which is added to the water systems ,effecting the birds natural system whilst drinking treated water ,

[greenlands]

may it be fluoride which is added to the water systems ,effecting the birds natural system whilst drinking treated water ,

My water is put up the previos night,hopefully to allow any crap that the water board deem fit to add to disperse.Note I said hopefully.Lindsay

 

 

[Guest stb]

got to agree with you lindsay, went to papes corn merchents today, says 3 more members had been in before me and all had it, said when he came back from training yesterday 12 lofts away, (usually about 50) there was feed in 2 baskets and feed in trailer, why do fanciers not notice the change in the birds appetite or when out exercising because when i get it this is the 1st 2 things that happen, they probably get right out of bed with sleep in there eyes and just basket them. p.s i bet these same (fanciers) will have birds away on friday night, crazy, what needs to be done is the person ringing the birds should check to see if they have feed on them and if so dont let them go.

Glad i dont fly in your club m8 as i would never get my birds away as i always feed mine before they go,

nobody got the right to stop birds go through just cos they got some feed in them.

 

 

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

sounds like young bird sickness is not actually understood at all someones just made it up for poor management of there birds

[greenlands]

what exactly is young bird sickness iv been lucky enough to never have had it what causes it and whats the treatment for it

Usually starts with loss of appitie,and unwillingness to exercise,holding food in their crops,ie food from the previous day,getting worse, wet droppings and in some cases death if not treated for a secondary infection which could be anything from canker/bacterial/fungal,droppings test would be advised.Treatment or should I say what I do.Stop feeding ,keep them in,electolytes in the water.After a couple of days feed light (depurative) and often.OBSERVATION is the key.JMO.

Lindsay C.

 

 

[nagid]

ive said this for years now.y.b.s will do more damage to our sport than anything else.it cant go on year after year just before young bird racing starts bang all that hard work not to mention money gone down the drain.then you get fanciers that are in this game to make money not because they like pigeons trying to sell us a so called cure.i think this is a disgrace.id like to wish greenlands all the best.

[Turk]

ive said this for years now.y.b.s will do more damage to our sport than anything else.it cant go on year after year just before young bird racing starts bang all that hard work not to mention money gone down the drain.then you get fanciers that are in this game to make money not because they like pigeons trying to sell us a so called cure.i think this is a disgrace.id like to wish greenlands all the best.

 

well said ,maybe its time to change this sport and introduce maybe any age races from the off with all this early breeding etc,i visited a friend only the other day who is at his end with his young birds all sick.

[nagid]

it would sicken most fancier of i know it would me

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

 

well said ,maybe its time to change this sport and introduce maybe any age races from the off with all this early breeding etc,i visited a friend only the other day who is at his end with his young birds all sick.

racing old birds against young birds are you serious? and how will this stop young bird sickness as most say they get it before the racing starts maybe those with ybs should stop putting there sick birds in the race baskets

 

 

[Turk]

he is distraught with it ,a thousand questions and no answer ,he was talking of packing in as greenlands said its every year a fortune spent to cure them only to  down again.

[pjc]

if somebody gets it year in year out there is something wrong with there management!

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

if somebody gets it year in year out there is something wrong with there management!

correct thats why no one knows what it is its simply down to bad management

 

 

[Guest numpty01]

just make up load elderbery and every day put some in the water for them it works for me and others that use it   ;) ;) ;)

[Turk]

racing old birds against young birds are you serious? and how will this stop young bird sickness as most say they get it before the racing starts maybe those with ybs should stop putting there sick birds in the race baskets

 

 

 

there is many selfish fanciers who put all there years dreams in young bird races ,as they want to win prizes against the top fanciers in clubs who probably use young birds as education for a life time of winning ,not just one race .there is many young birds had more chemicals pumped into them as young birds there system just breaks down because there sick ,yet they still prop them up with more chemicals .

 

agree there is many who enter sick birds ,probably think it gives them a advantage of winning if everyone birds go sick .

 

maybe its time when fanciers should have the option to keep there young birds in there own basket .

[Guest stb]

sounds like young bird sickness is not actually understood at all someones just made it up for poor management of there birds

why would anyone want to make that up  you numpty some of the best lofts in the country are affected bye this WHAT A STATEMENT TO MAKE.

 

 

[pjc]

 

 

there is many selfish fanciers who put all there years dreams in young bird races ,as they want to win prizes against the top fanciers in clubs who probably use young birds as education for a life time of winning ,not just one race .there is many young birds had more chemicals pumped into them as young birds there system just breaks down because there sick ,yet they still prop them up with more chemicals .

 

agree there is many who enter sick birds ,probably think it gives them a advantage of winning if everyone birds go sick .

 

maybe its time when fanciers should have the option to keep there young birds in there own basket .

 

If a member sends a panier full and want them on there own we let them!

If fanciers allowed the birds to build a good natural immunity then there would be far far less YBS, its caused by lowering immunity through over use of chemicals! IMO

 

 

[Tony C]

 

 

there is many selfish fanciers who put all there years dreams in young bird races ,as they want to win prizes against the top fanciers in clubs who probably use young birds as education for a life time of winning ,not just one race .there is many young birds had more chemicals pumped into them as young birds there system just breaks down because there sick ,yet they still prop them up with more chemicals .

 

agree there is many who enter sick birds ,probably think it gives them a advantage of winning if everyone birds go sick .

 

maybe its time when fanciers should have the option to keep there young birds in there own basket .

http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1216822302/s-0/ take a look Turk

 

HighSpeedLofts & PJC your talking out of your arses.

 

 

[pjc]

why Tony?

[Guest slugmonkey]

Here ( USA ) all the money is in YB racing so its big

I much prefer OB racing though as the quality of animal shows up at 400 miles there arent any accidents at that distance the bird is either good or he aint !!!