fits Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hi can anyone tell me anything about Bob McDonalds Pigeons? As he has kindly bread me some. I understand they are distance birds. By the way they look and handle realy well. Thanks Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymac Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 They are Ko Nipius/Aarden based. I purchased a few at his sale in Blackpool a few years back and they have bred me birds to fly out to Penzance. One of the cocks I purchased breeds lovely dark cheqs with feathered legs and his ybs are breeding the same. Reminds me of the old Gits pigeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fits Posted November 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Thanks Paddymac, it's nice to hear from someone who's racing them. I have red 07 cock and 4 x 09's 2x dk cheq,light cheq and cheq pied. They are being kept to breed off. I will be trying one's off them this year. Regards Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymac Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Bob told me at the sale in Blackpool that they (his birds) needed a cross that all his birds were too inbred. I have paired the dark cock to different hens and still got good results from all the birds I bred from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 you should pm robbiedoo he is often at bobs bob has the jan ardens first to bring them in he also has other birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williedoo Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Allen B w/f,was the feathered legs up here that Sam Sammons and Charlie Rae had Humphrys of Tottenham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 BANG ON WILLIE BUT WAS LEAVING FOR OTHERS DID HE NOT ALSO HAVE THE OLD MILNE BIRDS ASWELL AND A PAIR OFF YOUR DOUBLE RENNES SECT WINNER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williedoo Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Sam got most of his pigeons from Bob McDonald and you right Alan he had the Milne doos aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 what about yours as well Willie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williedoo Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 what about yours as well Willie Don't know,but Bob had so might have got from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiedoo. Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 alan your right bob was one of the first to bring in the ko nipios doos think it was in 1966 he still has a section full of them realy nice doos like peas in a pod they do need a cross though they are very inbred now . he also has what he calls the old milly doos and alan if you want i,ll easy take you out sometime no probs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 it would be interesting to see his birds must be 20 yrs since i was last there them dk pd jan ardens as you say robbie like peas in a pod plus his old distance family the old milnes where the dogs boll-cks class stockman bob dont make fanciers like him now top man and a real nice guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiedoo. Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 alan you get your daughter to drop you off here and i,ll give you a lift home again no probs . youd be like a bairn ina sweetie shop out in bobs and like you say a realy nice guy who what he dosent know about doos is not worth knowing . and at 85 years young has the attitude that hes still learning a proper gent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 well get some thing arranged soon and i,ll come over even for a bit crack with may be get a chance to see bob whyte again aint seen him for years class acts cheers robbie will be in touch did you pm santy any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond dave Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Had a couple of Ko Nipius cocks off of the Merrick lines through Phil and Carol Cooke. I tried many hens with them but couldn't get anything from them so I went to the Old Comrades show to purchase some from the Bob McDonald sale a few years ago now. I paid a lot of money for the birds and still didn't get anything from them. They bred fantastic looking birds but I couldn't keep them beyond the yearling stage. This was so frustrating and cost me about 4/5 seasons keep trying them - I have now ousted all of them. I remember talking to a couple of other fancirs who had similar problems. I am not saying for one minute this was due to Bobs birds but it would seem that the Ko nips didn't suit my methods. D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hjaltland Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 I had birds from Bob some twenty years ago, both the ko nips and the Jimmy Milne families. These were the backbone of what now forms the basis of my birds. I've flown them out across the sea every year since I started. Bob said fly out everything and what comes back - breed off that - and the returns will improve. Over the years that has been good advice. These Jan Aarden Ko Nips also handle well and have excellent feathering, you will like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fits Posted November 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Thanks for the information. i do not know what strain of Bob Mc's he never said, they are all alike to look at and to handle though and very differant to my van reets. The only thing is out of the 4 young birds 3 are cocks and the 07 bird he gave is also a cock, what strain of hen will add into them to keep them right? Any idea's Regards Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 go and ask bob for some hens thats the best place to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 go and ask bob for some hens thats the best place to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fits Posted November 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 With me just starting up i feel Bob has been very kind giving me these ones. I would not want to be greedy. I just thought that people already fly these pigeons may have tried and crossed in strains that have done well for them. As stated before they may need an out crossing. Regards Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hjaltland Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 I've crossed with stichelbauts and jansens and both crosses have done fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy_bulger Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 they cross very well with the kenyons as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fits Posted November 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Thanks for your comments. Last year i paired the 07 red cock to a busheart (loaned to me by Red Cheq hen) and bread a cheq cock and a dak cheq hen they both flew upto 200 miles and i was wondering if the hen would pair to one of the 09 young birds and it would make a good cross back in? Regards Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 where you fly fits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fits Posted November 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 I fly in Redcar Central, i just started flying this year. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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