homer Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 personally i dont buy into the idea someone trys to cheat for a joke ,the cheat to win ,if this is the case whats the point of having the shows thats what i reckon
EAGLEOWL Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 name em and shame em. thats the way name and shame ,name they use and the name they signed on with to cheat .
Guest dogeon Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 The show is only a bit of fun.........why would anyone want to go to this length?? I say remove their entries and don't allow them to enter any future shows. Roundo. well i say this is only for a bit of fun.......i surley wouldn't like to be racing in the club there in > i'd have no chance ;D
EAGLEOWL Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 just seen this and i think those that have used another account to vote more for their birds should have their birds withdrawn for cheating,this in my eyes is dissgraceful and they should be ashamed of themselves. name and shame them!!.. no excuse for wot they have done and they should own up to it themselves ,at least then we can see they have some decency left in them! OWN UP NOW!..dont follow others who may do later. be the 1st one on here to do so...paul. > agree totally how can the shows now be justified ,will the winner be seen has a cheat by some people ,myself i will not cast my vote ,but sadly these shows have in my eyes lost all credabillity due to people who want to CHEAT. WEBMASTER should NAME AND SHAME THEM AND BAN THEM FROM ENTERING ANY OTHER SHOWS
Guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 Can't believe that anyone would stoop to cheating on a 'for fun' on-line pigeon show. Fully paid-up member of The Sad B*s Society indeed. But all competitions normally contain a rule: cheats will be disqualified. If someone has entered a bird (s) and opened additional accounts and voted for themself under another name (s) then name, shame & disqualify is an apt punishment. That way only the people who deserve to be punished are, and genuine new members aren't.
EAGLEOWL Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 well i say this is only for a bit of fun.......i surley wouldn't like to be racing in the club there in > i'd have no chance ;D IF THEY WOULD CHEAT TO WIN A SHOW ,WHAT WOULD THEY DO TO WIN A CAR OR A BIGGER PRIZE.
EAGLEOWL Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 Can't believe that anyone would stoop to cheating on a 'for fun' on-line pigeon show. Fully paid-up member of The Sad B*s Society indeed. But all competitions normally contain a rule: cheats will be disqualified. If someone has entered a bird (s) and opened additional accounts and voted for themself under another name (s) then name, shame & disqualify is an apt punishment. That way only the people who deserve to be punished are, and genuine new members aren't. AGREE BUT NOW HOW CAN ANYONE VOTE WHEN THE CHEATS ARE STILL IN THE SHOW ,HOW DO WE KNOW IF WE VOTE WE ARE NOT VOTING FOR THE CHEATS . SORRY BUT IN ANY OTHER SPORT THE GAME /MATCH WOULD BE VOID AND THE CHEATS NAMED AND BANNED FROM ENTERING AGAIN
Guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 I've merged a second thread on General Pigeon Board with this one - help to get a better feel for what the members think if all are posting to the same & original thread.
homer Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 i have just cast my new votes for the cocks and hens racers. i voted for the same birds as last time but SINCERELY hope i havnt voted for one of the CHEATS ! having read the more recent posts on this matter im starting to wonder if i have done the right thing ? could so easily have cast my votes fof one of the CHEATS. i think the only way the show can work properly now is to remove the CHEATERS entries.
Guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 AGREE BUT NOW HOW CAN ANYONE VOTE WHEN THE CHEATS ARE STILL IN THE SHOW ,HOW DO WE KNOW IF WE VOTE WE ARE NOT VOTING FOR THE CHEATS . SORRY BUT IN ANY OTHER SPORT THE GAME /MATCH WOULD BE VOID AND THE CHEATS NAMED AND BANNED FROM ENTERING AGAIN well if there not going to name and shame the sad ba*tards involved or with draw the birds owned by these tw*ts i refuse to vote as i will not vote for a cheat .....amanda > > > >
Guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 Very sad.... You dont even get this behaviour from the Young Fanciers I suppose some people just cannot stomach not winning Personally I would withdraw there entries ??)
Guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 Very sad.... You dont even get this behaviour from the Young Fanciers I suppose some people just cannot stomach not winning Personally I would withdraw there entries ??) i agree with you Steph , youngsters would'nt behave like this , but no ones got the bottle to name and shame or withdraw the birds, so the real decent people on here lose out, i for one wont enter or vote in any shows posted on here again, its a sad day for pigeon basics :'( :'( :'(
hellsbellz Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 I think you'll still be allowed to enter..... you just won't be allowed to vote!
sapper756 Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 I see the webmaster is currently on line. wonder if he would like to let us know if he plans to take further action against the CHEATS, considering the feelings of us GENIUNE members????????? :-/
Guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 I see the webmaster is currently on line. wonder if he would like to let us know if he plans to take further action against the CHEATS, considering the feelings of us GENIUNE members????????? :-/ well webby what are you going to do about the cheats??????????????
EAGLEOWL Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 well if there not going to name and shame the sad ba*tards involved or with draw the birds owned by these tw*ts i refuse to vote as i will not vote for a cheat .....amanda > > > > have already stated i will not vote but sadly its stopped me entering the next shows , well said amanda but webby should NAME AND SHAME
Webmaster Posted December 8, 2007 Author Report Posted December 8, 2007 sorry to disagree with you all,but i dont think it is very fair that members with less than 100 posts can not vote.i am a new member and new to keeping pigeons and found giving my vote to the bird i thought was the best made me feel part of the community,now anyone with less than 100 posts is being grouped together with people who try to cheat.i would have thought the obvious thing to do if the offenders are known would be to stop them from entering or voting and name them. I personally agree with your comments above, however wanting to keep it a member vote, and wanting to stop the possibility of anyone cheating, the pull between good and evil has left us with a shade of grey. I would like to thank all of you who have taken the time to post on this topic, I have read them all, and have taken them on board. The 100 post count limit was a quick fix to the problem, which needed immediate action (the first figure I pencilled in was post count of 250 :-/ ) The nature of the internet, the forum, and member account poses great problems in proving 100% the culprit(s), how ever obvious it may be where cheating has been undertaken. I have spent hours last night and this morning sifting through log files, votes cast, IP addresses and a number of other measures; and can now confirm that 4 birds will be removed from this weeks classes. However as the birds have been voted for again, the suspected birds will be removed when the poll closes (Sunday night); and an independent fancier will judge the pigeons also. A combination weighting of votes and this fanciers opinion will form this weeks class winners. The remaining classes (from now until Blackpool) will continue, and be judged in different way - which I will consult your opinion under a separate topic.
Guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 have already stated i will not vote but sadly its stopped me entering the next shows , well said amanda but webby should NAME AND SHAME i agree 100% name and shame the cheats > > > >
sapper756 Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 Don,t understand why these 4 birds are not removed now :-/ :-/ :-/
Guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 Don,t understand why these 4 birds are not removed now :-/ :-/ :-/ i dont understand why they cant name and shame the cheats, as well as removing the birds, is it because the owners/ cheaters are long standing members on here??
Guest dogeon Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 Don,t understand why these 4 birds are not removed now :-/ :-/ :-/ i agree at least then we know were not voting on birds that shouldn't be aload because of the owners stupid behaviour
sapper756 Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 i dont understand why they cant name and shame the cheats, as well as removing the birds, is it because the owners/ cheaters are long standing members on here?? That shouldn,t be taken into account, A CHEAT IS A CHEAT > > > A BIG WELDONE TO THOSE WHO HAVE SPOILT IT FOR THE REST OF US > > >
Guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 That shouldn,t be taken into account, A CHEAT IS A CHEAT > > > A BIG WELDONE TO THOSE WHO HAVE SPOILT IT FOR THE REST OF US > > > your right Sapper it should'nt be taken into account but it looks like it is does'nt it ? ive even pm ed the webmaster, is there a response, no there isnt > > > and as Sapper says weldone to the cheats. you win at being the biggest arseholes on pigeon basics
sapper756 Posted December 8, 2007 Report Posted December 8, 2007 your right Sapper it should'nt be taken into account but it looks like it is dos'nt it ? ive even pm ed the webmaster, is there a responce, no there isnt > > > and as Sapper says weldone to the cheats. you win at being the biggest arseholes on pigeon basics SNAP,, I pm,d him earlier also, however I don,t blame him, he does a good job running this site, it,s the minority who spoil it or the majoriy/
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