chrissy Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 the pin holes are mite, they live inside the quil and the holes show when the new flights grow, easy to cure by dipping etc so no excuse to not sort the problem. I only ever bought 1 bird from Blackpool and it was a good few years ago now,it was sunday afternoon and so it was reduced in price and it just caught my eye as I walked past,handled it and it seemed fine,bought it,got it home and a load of red "THINGS" ran up my arm,I had never seen anything like it before or since thankfully,it had looked ok at the show.I think the heat at the show had probably made them breed more but the lights had kept them hidden as they like dark,couple of hours in a dark amtrak box and they were quite a surprise when I opened the box!,in propper daylight it became obvious that practically every feather was pin holed and being january just after the moulting season it meant the bird was no use for showing for nearly a year,it also had to live in the isolation shed for ages and I had to get changed everytime i wanted to go to the loft,it just really wasnt worth the hassle,never again!!.That stand is still there every year without fail and all I will say is their english is about as good as their birds!!
DOVEScot Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 I only ever bought 1 bird from Blackpool and it was a good few years ago now,it was sunday afternoon and so it was reduced in price and it just caught my eye as I walked past,handled it and it seemed fine,bought it,got it home and a load of red "THINGS" ran up my arm,I had never seen anything like it before or since thankfully,it had looked ok at the show.I think the heat at the show had probably made them breed more but the lights had kept them hidden as they like dark,couple of hours in a dark amtrak box and they were quite a surprise when I opened the box!,in propper daylight it became obvious that practically every feather was pin holed and being january just after the moulting season it meant the bird was no use for showing for nearly a year,it also had to live in the isolation shed for ages and I had to get changed everytime i wanted to go to the loft,it just really wasnt worth the hassle,never again!!.That stand is still there every year without fail and all I will say is their english is about as good as their birds!! Do moths do anything to the feathers Chrissy?
Guest grizzler Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 suprised that both the rpra or blackpool borough council didnt have someone going around the show to make sure none of the birds were not overcrwded or in a stresssed state
Shortcut Lofts Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 i saw it he was nothing more than a pigeon dealer selling sh** hope noone bought from him Unfortunatly every time i went past the stall boxes were leaving it - poor birds and fanciers who bought them should have know better.
Tumley Lofts Stud Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 We were next to D&T Lofts last year and were appalled by the way the birds were treated and the manner in which they conduct their business. I don't normally speak out on this sort of thing but when we take so much care of our birds and see pigeons treated in that way (not just D&T) it does make my blood boil when nothing is done to stop this happening. I can't understand why people buy their birds from these sort of people but they will keep selling like this as long as people buy from them! Every bird we take is on display from day one with water 24 hours a day and they are fed twice a day! I hope i have offended anyone, if I have I'm sorry but this is my opinion!
BLACK W F Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 Still think frank should get a bird with big tits to stand in the video booth tho!!!!! ALL FOR THAT STEWART ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest bigbok Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 Unfortunatly every time i went past the stall boxes were leaving it - poor birds and fanciers who bought them should have know better. they sure should have all i saw was a disaster waiting to happen
frank-123 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 defra were in the hall on saturday did anybody contact the rpra to voice there concerns on the day? it was one stall out of good few stalls selling pigeons no need for the rspca or defra just let the rrpa sort it out should have been done on the day but maybe next year it will not be allowed
lithgilad Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 as with most things these days "PURE ******* GREED"
Guest frank dooman Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 they will know all about it when defra shut the show down on the frid night or sat and thousands of fanciers lose the heed last year the rules were still in operation about bird flue so that surprises me it was allowed to go on this year no excuse for bad management
pjc Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 defra were in the hall on saturday did anybody contact the rpra to voice there concerns on the day? it was one stall out of good few stalls selling pigeons no need for the rspca or defra just let the rrpa sort it out should have been done on the day but maybe next year it will not be allowed I have been told by the RPRA that the president went and spoke to them and all was resolved! Boll**ks was it!
Guest frank dooman Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 I have been told by the RPRA that the president went and spoke to them and all was resolved! Boll**ks was it! well next year will tell if there is a show and hes back doing the same thing ;)
superleeds Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 was there on sat when a lady was very angry at the state of the birds on show .she had a few words whith the stall holder.and i think he told her to f off.never herd him say it my self but that is what she told me.i asked her to go to the rpra stand whith me and we have a word with them her reply was she wouldnt bother with the rpra and she was going to the rspca.i reported this to karen james and herd her talk to the gm on the walkie talkie.aftear that i dont know what happend.but the truth is that stall realy let the pigeon world down.
pjc Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 was there on sat when a lady was very angry at the state of the birds on show .she had a few words whith the stall holder.and i think he told her to f off.never herd him say it my self but that is what she told me.i asked her to go to the rpra stand whith me and we have a word with them her reply was she wouldnt bother with the rpra and she was going to the rspca.i reported this to karen james and herd her talk to the gm on the walkie talkie.aftear that i dont know what happend.but the truth is that stall realy let the pigeon world down. shame its a member of this forum!
Novice Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 I very much doubt if the RPRA will take any action but the best course of action available is to inform them that if this individual is allocated a stand next year we will collectively boycot the show. Actually when I saw the condition of the birds and the price tag of £25 I thought few people would buy them. I was obviously wrong
pjc Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 he has kept a low profile since i challenged him about birds being sold with numbers having been ground off the rings!
pjc Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 D & T Lofts i understand are Dave & Tina Rust from Gloucester! When a guy reported to me he had purchased birds from this stand last year without realiseing about the rings, badgeman was very very defensive about D&T, there is a connection there somewhere!
Guest grizzler Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 D & T Lofts i understand are Dave & Tina Rust from Gloucester! When a guy reported to me he had purchased birds from this stand last year without realiseing about the rings, badgeman was very very defensive about D&T, there is a connection there somewhere! it could be his mate ;)
Guest ljb107 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 D & T Lofts i understand are Dave & Tina Rust from Gloucester! When a guy reported to me he had purchased birds from this stand last year without realiseing about the rings, badgeman was very very defensive about D&T, there is a connection there somewhere! Did you speak to him then?
pjc Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 I had pm disscusions with him last year and since then he seems to be keeping a low profile!
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