timbarra Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 Hello , due to continual hawk attacks we have decided to call it a day racing, and we intend to open a full time breeding lofts to provide fanciers with top bloodlines and quality birds. www.timbarra.co.uk visit the site and view our pigeons, we are taking orders for next season and deposit secures order. if you are interested in serious pigeons then get in touch. Roland Janssens price on application , parents will all be belgium rung and our Klak and Meulemans start at £75 each . Note our Rolands will be cheaper than £75 !!!!! all birds will be bred to order only and be limited in rotation to orders.
Guest coxy Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 SEEMS A GOD IDEA IF THE BIRDS ARE PROVEN BREEDERS MATE BUT TO BE HONEST I THINK THE PRICES ARE ABIT STEEP AS ANYONE COMING INTO THE SPORT AND ALOT OF EXPERIANCED FANCIERS WONT GAMBLE 75 QUID EACH ON YOUNG BIRDS JUST MY OPINION THO
PIGEON_MAN Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 Hello , due to continual hawk attacks we have decided to call it a day racing, and we intend to open a full time breeding lofts to provide fanciers with top bloodlines and quality birds. www.timbarra.co.uk visit the site and view our pigeons, we are taking orders for next season and deposit secures order. if you are interested in serious pigeons then get in touch. Roland Janssens price on application , parents will all be belgium rung and our Klak and Meulemans start at £75 each . Note our Rolands will be cheaper than £75 !!!!! all birds will be bred to order only and be limited in rotation to orders. As any one managed to get on the site,cant seem to this end.
timbarra Posted September 5, 2007 Author Report Posted September 5, 2007 in todays climate people buy bloodlines that are not avaiable elsewhere and win. My birds breed winners and are top pigeons and I have testimonials to prove it. I understand my prices are not as some studs in this country , but I have seen what they supply and it is nothing more than street pigeons with rings on ... in my opinion. but understand fully some people do not have they finances to pay what my birds cost. in that instance they dont buy them thats simple. the price is set and will not change and anyone who is seriuos will buy the best bloodlines they can afford. you get what you pay for in this world and I am almost fully booked for next year already.!!! Our birds are close to the original foundations of their strains and have bred winners and satisfaction is assured to each buyer. the trouble we feel with this sport is that new fanciers do come into it and buy cheap pigeons , then they do not perform , then the new comer leaves the sport. we always help novices and experianced fanciers alike and will continue to do so. also the reason we have so many young bird losses in the sport is that to many madiocre pigeons are kept and being bred from. we at Timbarra have bred from 12 breeding pairs this year 2007, a total of 72 youngsters...... 59 are still on their lofts at this present time and scoring !!! We have bred club, federation, open, winners including birds to gain top 10 national postions as well as bird of the year award winners!!!!! so at prices that are quoted they are great value for money. wishing everybody kindest regards , spencer
mark Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 hello spencer, i can see where you are coming from. but when starting up you can only afford what your finances will allow, you say you are selling a few roland janssens next year what lines are they,? and are they directs, all the best mark
frank-123 Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 spencer/timbarra whats your name and address what club or clubs did you race in any fed's or combine's results i could check
WulDon Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 what some fanciers fail to see is the literally thousands even tens of thousands pounds that some lofts spend on quality stock... youngsters from these pigeons are priced generally at a fraction of there true value and represent a true bargain to introduce some quality and not the SH*TE that floods our weekly papers!
Guest coxy Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 not disputing the facts tht some stock cost thousands to buy!!!! but what i am saying is any small flyer and the normal working man/novice/young fancier will not beable to afford £75 pounds for 1 young bird!! i am not saying the birds are not worth this amount im just expressing my opinion on the matter. also can i have the name u flew/fly as also clubs and feds u were in to do my research cheers. notice u have a cat stud aswell
Wiley Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 not disputing the facts tht some stock cost thousands to buy!!!! but what i am saying is any small flyer and the normal working man/novice/young fancier will not beable to afford £75 pounds for 1 young bird!! i am not saying the birds are not worth this amount im just expressing my opinion on the matter. also can i have the name u flew/fly as also clubs and feds u were in to do my research cheers. notice u have a cat stud aswell I go to college and work, and just going to college i can afford it even if i wasnt working. In my opinion everyone can get there hands on the money even if its a matter of saving up, aldepends how much you want something. If you can't afford it its one of them things, everything has a price, and if its a price you cannot afford its something you cannot buy, simple.
Guest coxy Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 I go to college and work, and just going to college i can afford it even if i wasnt working. In my opinion everyone can get there hands on the money even if its a matter of saving up, aldepends how much you want something. If you can't afford it its one of them things, everything has a price, and if its a price you cannot afford its something you cannot buy, simple. so ur telling me if u are 13/14 years old and are starting up or w.e for expample then u can afford 75 each for 1 young birds thts all im saying
Wiley Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 if you save up yes, christmas and birthday money nearly every kid always recieves a card for these celebrations and alot of them contain cash. They could also ask there parents to do odd jobs around the house for pocket money, theres means and ways to things
PIGEON_MAN Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 what some fanciers fail to see is the literally thousands even tens of thousands pounds that some lofts spend on quality stock... youngsters from these pigeons are priced generally at a fraction of there true value and represent a true bargain to introduce some quality and not the SH*TE that floods our weekly papers! Just wondering what your criteria is for quality stock,just because someone as spent thousands of pounds on their stock there is still no guarentee that they will breed winners,likewise just because they might be sons or daughters of some top racer or off some pigeon with as they say a pedigree as long as your arm there is still no guarentee they will breed winners.It as been said many times on here before that usually your best birds are ones that are gifted to you.To me a quality Racer is one that as won mutiple firsts,a quality breeder is one that as bred multiple winners,not how much they cost or whats on the pedigree.
Guest coxy Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 if you save up yes, christmas and birthday money nearly every kid always recieves a card for these celebrations and alot of them contain cash. They could also ask there parents to do odd jobs around the house for pocket money, theres means and ways to things UR JUST BEING PICKY MATE NOW IM TELLING U FOR A CERTAIN FACT U ASK BEN OR LITTLE SAM IF THEY CAN AFFORD TO BUY YOUNG BIRDS AT 75 POUND A POP NOT A CHANCE UR IN A FANTISY WORLD MAYBE U CAN AFFORD AND I KNOW THAT I CAN BUT IN ALOT OF SITUATION'S WHERE PEOPLE CANT. FOR ANOTHER EXAMPLE WORKING MAN WITH A FAMILY TO TAKE CARE OF WILL NOT RISK 75 QUID ON A BIRD THAT IS NOT PROVEN AND CAN BE LOFT OFF THE LOFT LIKE I SAY ITS ONLY MY OPINION AND EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THERE OWN OPINION ARE THEY NOT?
mac1 Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 coxy thats why youngsters are not coming into to the sport everything is to exspensive im not saying they are not worth it tim ;D
mark Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 four birds = one weeks wages to me and thats with a bit of overtime.
kelly tom Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 The lad is telling you his prices you either buy or you dont you are entitled to a opinion but the lad sets his prices as he sees fit most young people coming into the sport receive gift birds to start with good luck Spencer
Guest stevie-b Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 hope it works for you quality pigeons at working mens prices
WulDon Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 Just wondering what your criteria is for quality stock,just because someone as spent thousands of pounds on their stock there is still no guarentee that they will breed winners,likewise just because they might be sons or daughters of some top racer or off some pigeon with as they say a pedigree as long as your arm there is still no guarentee they will breed winners.It as been said many times on here before that usually your best birds are ones that are gifted to you.To me a quality Racer is one that as won mutiple firsts,a quality breeder is one that as bred multiple winners,not how much they cost or whats on the pedigree. i didnt state spending thousands guarantees winners, but i'm sure who will agree if you can buy the best you can afford then your chances are increased in producing winning pigeons... its a true fact 'the apple never falls far from the tree' and to obtain these type of pigeons usually means parting with some hard earned cash.
Wiley Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 UR JUST BEING PICKY MATE NOW IM TELLING U FOR A CERTAIN FACT U ASK BEN OR LITTLE SAM IF THEY CAN AFFORD TO BUY YOUNG BIRDS AT 75 POUND A POP NOT A CHANCE UR IN A FANTISY WORLD MAYBE U CAN AFFORD AND I KNOW THAT I CAN BUT IN ALOT OF SITUATION'S WHERE PEOPLE CANT. FOR ANOTHER EXAMPLE WORKING MAN WITH A FAMILY TO TAKE CARE OF WILL NOT RISK 75 QUID ON A BIRD THAT IS NOT PROVEN AND CAN BE LOFT OFF THE LOFT LIKE I SAY ITS ONLY MY OPINION AND EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THERE OWN OPINION ARE THEY NOT? No one said you wasn't entitled to your own opinion, like i am mine. The fact of the matter is Spencer has put his birds up for £75 a piece, if you cant afford it ya cant afford it, you don't see people turning round to louella and saying those roland janssens your selling for £120, are too expensive for working men, novices and young fanciers, i think you are the one living a dream my friend. Timbarra's birds have quoted to have bred winners in all levels of competition so for £75, is definate value for money.
Wiley Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 won't be getting into an argument and will be last thing i say on the matter all the best
Guest coxy Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 coxy thats why youngsters are not coming into to the sport everything is to exspensive im not saying they are not worth it tim ;D like i say only expressing my opinion and im glad to see other people agree
Guest coxy Posted September 5, 2007 Report Posted September 5, 2007 four birds = one weeks wages to me and thats with a bit of overtime. this is the point i am trying to make thts all i am not in any way saying the birds are not worth it ust stating the fact that everything is going up in price!! and doing people out of the sport thats all!! anyway good luck with the business mate
Beanz Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 Go to Blackpool and tell me people can't afford them prices, they pay that and a lot more for anything from Holland & Belgium with a ring on and we all know most are crap, they bring them over here because the British fancier is a mug, they know they cant sell them at home because the fanciers know they are rubbish, if you go to a stand at Blackpool and there are 100 pigeons on it and of these 10 are foreign rung I would be 99% certain that they would be the first 10 sold, as stated the price is there buy or not thats your choice.
timbarra Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Posted September 6, 2007 I have recently moved house and have not raced due to hwk giving me problems , but I am opening a small stud of select bloodlines and have priced them accordingly , trying to keep the price in check so most people can afford them. I pay alot of money on the best corn there is and minerals and calcium supplements and other certain cereals just to rear top babies, I would only be guessing that for the first 28 days of the youngsters life until weaning it costs me about £25 so the bloodlines are then only costing £50 per youngster !!!!! this is very rarely taken into consideration , also my time to take care of the birds , also the ring the paperwork that goes with the bird and costs of ink and electricity to run the P.C to print the pedigrees all cost a little , so is this ever taken into account ? no i doubt it. I appreciate peoples opinion and all is respected but these birds are top quality , you buy or you dont buy its that simple. I do not breed rubbish and only ship pigeons that I would have in my own breeding loft, I have sent my bloodlines (pigeons) to Ireland twice , belgium, portugal and all over the U.K. thank you everyone for your comments and imput, I have also donated 4 youngsters to a young lad in cornwall who has had top results with them and he has never raced before. they were free to him. so i do my bit for the novices. best regards to all spencer
frank-123 Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 spencer/timbarra whats your name and address what club or clubs did you race in any fed's or combine results i could check just in-case you missed it timbarra
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