Guest strapper Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 here is another well bred pigeon. bred by ian axe! a mealy cockbird 07 bred,...see comment about this bird good eye. at the welsh show recently the cheapest if i remember was £75 with many at the £100 mark. open to offers on this wellbred bird, pedigree stamped as well direct from ian. no pic yet but heres its pedigree..it comes with the bird.
Fair Play Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 Strange just checked your pedigree and on yours NL03-2319628 Buggenun Boy On mine NL03-2319628 Rood Boy I wonder which one is right.
retired Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 Strange just checked your pedigree and on yours NL03-2319628 Buggenun Boy On mine NL03-2319628 Rood Boy I wonder which one is right. Was that from my Theelen cock FP ?
Guest strapper Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 Strange just checked your pedigree and on yours NL03-2319628 Buggenun Boy On mine NL03-2319628 Rood Boy I wonder which one is right. i wonder ,as this was a ped from ian axe. the person i bought this from bought the bird direct from ian, no 3rd parties. so if yours is saying what it is then was urs from ian himself? or from a 3rd party?
retired Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 i wonder ,as this was a ped from ian axe. the person i bought this from bought the bird direct from ian, no 3rd parties. so if yours is saying what it is then was urs from ian himself? or from a 3rd party? I can anwser this one for Fair Play - If it is the bird in question then its bred by Ian Axe with original Ian Axe Pedigree as the only third party involved is myself.
Guest strapper Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 I can anwser this one for Fair Play - If it is the bird in question then its bred by Ian Axe with original Ian Axe Pedigree as the only third party involved is myself. hi vallance m8, then the mistake ends with ian axe himself then,as this as urs was bought direct m8.
retired Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 I will chase the ring number up today and put a name to it.
Chris Little Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 Not the first time I have heard of discrepancies with Theelen pedigrees / ring numbers
Michael J Burden Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 I have to say that when I read the pedigree that it did not set me on fire. Grand parents described as being outstanding characteristics etc. Yet there has been 5 to 9 years to have ammended them to show what they had bred in the way of good birds. Something similar springs to mind with the parents. The same none descript phrases are used there too. It may be that followers of this breed understand the fancy names but that pedigree tells the buyer or owner very little.
Guest strapper Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 ive spoken to ian and he states that a friend of his fills out the ped forms and has most probably filled in the wrong name on the ped either on mine...or on fairplays ped.... BUT !..the correct ring number so there is no fraud of such in this ped. as ian explained he does cross parentage at times and this where the mistake was prob done.
Guest Paulo Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 pedigrees are a load of sh** anyway can't understand why people put so much value on a bit of paper. They are only as good as the man who writes them or the cock who treads another cocks hen lol
Guest strapper Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 anyone interested in the bird please pm me as i think this thread is getting out of hand now and i think its best ,pm would be the way forward, i wont ask for the thread to be locked as i want things left open for all to see so theres no feeling of any wrong doing. ANYONE is welcome to visit my lofts at ANYTIME day or night , to view any bird . just to point out, im not asking anywhere near the prices ian asks for these birds, so your choice. thanks...paul.
Michael J Burden Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 Strapper I believe you. I hope you sell the bird for what you think it is worth. It is easy to make little mistakes on pedigrees. Don't mean you are a crook. I am trying some of these out next year from Axes birds. Mine will be free though.
Guest strapper Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 Strapper I believe you. I hope you sell the bird for what you think it is worth. It is easy to make little mistakes on pedigrees. Don't mean you are a crook. I am trying some of these out next year from Axes birds. Mine will be free though. cheers mike m8, the cockbird i have is a strong looking bird,would have liked to have kept it but ive got 37 birds to sell ive recieved from the birds ive bought, only 1 pair will be kept, as ive no room.and you know how it is, if we kept all the birds we fancied we,d have to build another loft lol .good luck with the birds you recieve free, cant fault that.
Fair Play Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 Good Morning, Just on - Nothing untoward intended in the posting just saw the cock and something rang a bell I am very happy with the bird I have and hope you sell yours, if i had the cash I would probably bid for it.After all what is in a name they are all "Jock Tamson's Bairns"
Guest strapper Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 im open to offers over £45 for this cock , there are two youngsters also availible from this cock, could do a deal on all three.
Fair Play Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Hi Strapper -Sorry to have caused any problems with the sale of your bird I received two young Theelen hens from Vallance and wondered if you had any young cocks available for sale. The Theelen cock that I have is a red chequer paired to a Black pied Theelen hen. I only started up flying this year (retired) with the young birds I came down with a virus last Oct. and it set me right back with a spell in hospital. I hope you sell the Cock,if it's like the one from Vallance it will be OK the one i have is 05 and I suppose they are related. Cheers Tom
Guest strapper Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 please note!, after some thought ive decided to offer the two youngsters from this cock with it, these are nest mates,because of the new improved offer i will put a reserve of £75 all three birds,yb,s are a mealy and a red. this means 3 jan theelans for £75,mother was not present when i bought the birds. the cock was bought for more than this! so either pm me or make a bid here if interested...thanks.
Guest strapper Posted November 16, 2008 Report Posted November 16, 2008 ive had a bid on these birds but not yet met the asking price...just a little more might do it?
shotgun tim Posted November 16, 2008 Report Posted November 16, 2008 theres a credit crunch and its christmas!!!!!!!!!!!
Guest strapper Posted November 16, 2008 Report Posted November 16, 2008 theres a credit crunch and its christmas!!!!!!!!!!! thats why im offering 3 for 1..better than asda price lol
Guest strapper Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 right as it is nearing xmas and im over loaded with birds ill let these three for for £70 . the cock comes with a pedigree bred by ian axe....buyer to pay carriage....pm if ur interested..as i have 2 parties interested so far. cock and two young mealy and red.
Guest strapper Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 these birds as from 9pm tomorrow night, if not reached the offer price will be removed from sale.
Guest strapper Posted November 18, 2008 Report Posted November 18, 2008 yes...cams working again..but different phone, so heres a quick few photoe,s of this mealy ..not very good ones because its getting dark and under false light..
Guest strapper Posted November 18, 2008 Report Posted November 18, 2008 these birds as from 9pm tomorrow night, if not reached the offer price will be removed from sale. ive decided to let this sale run till tomorrow night so that i can post pics better tomorrow daytime in better light..so 9pm tomorrow night will be final.
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