My young birds are trained by car to as much as I can doo, then if there is a local transporter they will go with that, not a lot of local transporters going around nowadays though. First race is always a bit sticky as everyone will have experienced, due to other facts relating. My Young birds are kept overnight in the basket in there own hut, I think, it settles them down a bit. Short overnight staying in the transporter I think will help them. Interesting to hear other peoples views on your thread Erch. :emoticon-0167-beer: