DOVEScot

Aye, When we first started I drove from Glenrothes to Dumfries to get two fantails for Chickadee then across to Berwick to see her mum and dad and hame that night, 350 round trip over £50 in diesel, :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Aye they had rain for a couple of days this year and see what happened, they couldnae cope, and noo were paying through the nose for seeds ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You can always get then sent to someone closer and pick them up from there :-/

Three is a start of a club, you never know, them you can share the cost to get to your nearest fed :-/ Out of small seeds etc

Here is the problem ali mac is facing, it's a long slog to anywhere

Call the SHU 01 698 286 983 they might be able to help

NAW BUT THIS WILL BE YOU DAFTY

VERY NICE, DID YOU MAKE THE BOXES?

DOG TIRED

From an engineering point of view, I designed my loft with weather and location in mind as best as I could in the situation but did not include heating as I reckoned birds were equipped to deal with the fall in temperature :-/

Is that Leith ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I was being polite as always

Good information What about the lofts that have no heating to maintain the 10 degrees like ours?

Aye what a difference since changing the food, your name was mud a few time last week, but glad to say back on the xmas card list. for now anyway ;D ;D ;D

Hey ave got plenty of songs, dinnae just judge me on ma son's one I'm a mutant from a pigeon egg diddle diddle diddle dum With the extra leg diddle diddle diddle dum Where ever I go throughout the site The members hear me slaver sh** I'm a mutant from a pigeon egg diddle diddle diddle dum With the extra leg diddle diddle diddle dum Come on you all know it sing along with Rolf ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Aye lets hope the eggs in the cotes do well ;D

I had to deal with DEFRA recently They are all notifiable in the sense if your vet detects any of them, a report will be sent to DEFRA, Salmonela is a bacteria that widespread but can be contained easier as a bacteria, if you don't handle poultry from the butcher properly you risk salmonela infection. If it becomes a virus type as in PMV then it can take many forms, and multiply a lot quicker and spread a lot easier to a point viruses can become airborn Hence a lot tighter with the regulations and procedures

As I said before I spoke to Spencer as well and explained my viewpoint that due to recent events, members are being asked more that usual when selling things mainly birds on the site On one hand we are criticised for being foolish enough to buy pigeons with out doing our homework On the other hand we are being called witch hunters for trying to do our home work. So who is right the left hand or the right hand or the ambidextrous amongst us who can see two sides and make up our own mind? No matter what it is on any forum, if you are going to post things then be ready for them to questioned, to clear up some doubts that we have or be open to criticism by people who think differently On this thread, I raised a simple question about birds being kept for pleasure and raced from a prison, someone from above deleted it. I also questioned regarding the fact that there is no HMP in Sheffield again deleted from above I am sending a copy to the Webmaster regarding the same

Aye, ah could take it up on ma cherry picker and drop it;D ;D ;D ;D

Eagleowl you need to sort that stutter out and stop repeating yersel or is this just to get yer posts up;D ;D ;D

True you can say that about anyting though, widowhood natural canker, worming you name it we still talk bout it year after year with very little change in methods or ideas :-/

You talk some rubbish at times they are there every week picking off the cobbles in the street ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I spoke to Spencer as well and explained my viewpoint that due to recent events, members are being asked more that usaul when selling things mainly birds on the site On one hand we are criticised for being foolish enough to buy pigeons with out doing our homework On the other hand we are being called witch hunters for trying to do our home work. So who is right the left hand or the right hand or the ambidextrous amonst us who can see two sides and make up our own mind I for one do not like to see threads blocked, locked or deleted as certain things can be both negative and positive

Did you get a receipt :-/ :-/ :-/

The increase in hawks is one reason, I have seen whole cotes emptied in days due to a hawk as fantails are easy picking for them. Basic rule the bigger the tail the easier they are to catch. We now have ones with a slight fan in the tail as they are better at flying and avoiding any predator Nothing is foolproof as predators like hawks and cats will catch anything given the right opportunity, all you can do is cut down the risks If you have a hawk, mainly sparrow hawk problem in your area then best not keep to ones in a cote, thankfully we don't have a problem as yet. We have only lost one to a sparrowhawk this year Perigrines are not quite the same problem as fantails do not stray far from the cotes, and they tend to prey on flocks of pigeons This is the type we have in our cotes, they are tame in the sense that they stay in our garden, we feed them, we vaccinate and worm them etc, but they are feral in the sense that they are free to all the elements, breeding and choosing mates etc We have some on eggs but winter and nature will play a big part in the outcome, unlike the summer, they are very prolific :)