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Definately has potential

I think we are stuffed now that smart *expletive removed* Snowball has stole the limelight

I still am moaning about it :'( :'( :'(

Really interesting and believable as we consume a lot of honey and suffer vert little if none at all colds and flu' etc. Not tried rubbing it on any cuts yet :-/

It is just a small town, cough it in the morning at seven and your house is spoken for by ten ;D ;D ;D I may not find out being a pilgrim to the area but Billy will

On the way to visit Billy tonight I dropped in to feed his birds as usual, some one had broken into his loft and shed, all the birds were on the roof and would not come in, which they normally do when I whistle, secured all as best as I could and went to see him, after visiting him I run Carol home and picked up some tools, the shitbags had returned and broje his sputnicks and his mesh seperating doors that he had. They also smashed his food hut area and his rabbit hutches. Just screw nailed everything up as best as I could and will return tomorrow to make the best out of it, despite all this not a neighbour saw anything or heard the noise of it all being smashed up :X :X :X Little *expletive removed* will get it tight or their parents will

Of course I downloaded it from the web, just like all the other downloaded posts that all the so called experts copy like they know what they are talking about. ;D ;D ;D Not copied, from my knowledge of muscle grouping I don't think it as simple as some make out that the pecks are the only muscle that counts, I would say that the are one of the most impotant ones as it is a core muscle, without it the bird could not fly so yes it is an impotant one and as it allows it to FLY then it is the most important one, but then again so is the bicep an ipotant one for flying Our pectorial muscles have not evolved much and if you study Darwins theory then they were what we used to flap our wings with, if you look at a pigeon skeleton it has the very same bone structure as ourselves apart fron the evolution part

Sounds more like a two legged rat than a fox

Well done Ferry, do you know what system you are going for

Not disputing the above, but what about the rest of the bird, surely to are conditioning the whole bird not just the pecs Is this the conclusion you draw when you handle a bird The effect of various activity regimes on metabolism of pigeon pectoralis was examined by measurement of blood lactate following exercise, total lactate dehydrogenase activity of pectoral muscle, and proportions of specific isoenzymes of pectoral muscle lactate dehydrogenase. Sprint-trained birds had the highest pectoral muscle lactate dehydrogenase activity (1409 IU · g−1 wet tissue), while endurance-trained birds had the highest peak lactate levels (287 mg · dl−1, extrapolated from decay curves) and fastest half-time of the lactate response (4.8 min) following exercise, but the lowest lactate dehydrogenase activity (115 IU · g−1 wet tissue). Immobilization of one wing for 3 weeks following endurance training produced a marked increase in lactate dehydrogenase activity of the immobilized muscle, compared to that in the contralateral pectoralis and endurance-trained muscle. Aerobic forms of the lactate dehydrogenase enzyme (that favor conversion of lactate to pyruvate) predominated in pectoral muscle of endurance-trained birds, while cage-confined birds exhibited primarily the anaerobic isoenzymes. These results demonstrate that conversion of pectoral muscle lactate dehydrogenase isoenzymes, total lactate dehydrogenase activity, and half-time of lactate response after exercise is dependent on activity regime in pigeons. In this respect, pigeon pectoral muscle responds to training and disuse in a manner similar to that of mammalian skeletal muscle

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You would be better where you came from, down under with lenut , that Chickadee is a racist she only lets whites in her loft

HEY BUDGIE WHERE'S ALL MA PALS YOU LOST

Aye, but who pushes the buttons ;D ;D ;D

That's the least of his troubles ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

No matter what muscle is the biggest you have to have the rest in in proportion and more important balance, there is no way a fancier could condition one muscle on a pigeon or rely on it being the major factor in deciding a good bird A bird could have the biggest and the most perfect pecs in the world but if it does not have nostrils to fill the lungs to fuel these pecs with oxygen then it will stand no chance :-/ Good pecs are important but any muscle in the body is just as

I would like to add 883girl for four white roller hens she gave freely to myself, I have been looking for these for ages. The others have found very good homes as well

I would like to add Peckedhen to the list for the six white logans, excellent quality and health :)

That's because you are a Superstar :)

Aye well done Sapper :)

Yeh, well done Redcheqhen :)

You have asked everyone else, I noticed you did not post your numbers, how many did you lose Jimmy and how many do you have left?

THERE IS http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1196022875/s-0/ http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1196022852/s-4/highlight-selling/#num4

So discusing how we can develope the sport by reversing the downturn problems and the tradgedies that happen to fellow members makes us sweetie wives :-/ :-/ :-/ Roll up members a've a big bag o sweeties and when they run out a've got plenty of fish for the fish wives ;D ;D ;D

They must be happier with you to return after 4 weeks I will tell him cheers Mikkey