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I followed advice from members and tied thread round this lump and in time it fell off and the pigeon made a full recovery :-/

So far as I know we have no native spiders that would inflict this damage, mines turned out to be protien blisters and pigen made a full recovery and another fanciers as well :-/

That would explain it because we are inundated with Poles ;D ;D ;D

Roland, if you work with the public we have all experienced the pitfalls, from excellent salt of the earth to nightmare customers they pay for a service and within reason deserve what you are they paid for, if it is my problem I try and sort it, if it is an external problem then I try and explain it, if it their problem I try and sort it as best as I can. But you are right there is no pleasing some and the stories are vast, I had a guy 6' 7" and 27st wanting to stiffen me one night because he would not listen to reason, but not all the blame lies with the public there are some salt of the earth businesses that will do anything to help to nightmare businesses out there as well that could not give a toss and use every excuse bar themselves when things go pear shape :-/

These all work but nothing is foolproof PIR water jets, pain in the but if you forget about them Electronic cat deterrents, some cats are tone deaf Dogs, unless the are out 24/7 the cat knows when they are out Cat in the loft, not all cats are territorial and or alpha cats Rubber snakes, you have to mind and shift them Bell on the collar, ask all you neighbours to fit a bell on the collar to alert pigeons Air rifle, cats make far too much noise when you hit one and you may be reported Cat traps, I have found them the best, caught the cat and relocated it as I don't have the heart to kill it them :-/

This is what we have encountered, all pigeons made a full recovery, it is a pigeons problem to deal with protien that is why it only effects them individually :-/ http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1211379455/s-0/highlight-lump/#num0 http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1216403970/s-11/highlight-blood/#num11

Jamie, I personally looked at starting a pigeon courier service and totally agree that the external factors make it near on impossible to carry out this service single handed even just covering Scotland would have been a hard task never mind the whole of the UK and Ireland. And I stand by previous posts I do wish you all the best You said you have been in business for over 30 years surely you have encountered all these problems before; traffic jams, road works, speed limits, delays and knock on effects etc You said you have been a pigeon fancier for over 40 years so sure you have encountered problems with other fanciers, non fanciers, courier problems etc I still think it is impossible for one man to take on this task no matter how good and dedicated they are to pigeons or their business, I think you are trying you best wholeheartedly to carry out a service that is way beyond one man. If you are not able to arrive at a given window in time then you cannot expect some fanciers who have time schedules as well to be waiting around till you eventually show up no matter who or what is to blame, equally you cannot expect fanciers to have the pigeons boxed up ready to go when they are not sure when you may turn up. This is a forum for members to air their views and other members to agree or disagree with them and whether we like it or not that is the way it is, we have to take the rough with the smooth or the praise with the flack as long as it is the truth Regards DOVEScot

I don't think he is saying all non fanciers are numpties but there are numpties among both fanciers and non fanciers alike :-/

That's all we were saying about Amtrak, there is no company that run at 100% given the external factors re machine, road, human etc. Personally I still think it is down to networking for any national business to survive, arriving at 3.15 am with a delivery will soon burn the drivers out and if it is a one man operation it will be the business that will burn out :-/ I wish you all the best Jamie

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