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" The President and VPs did suggest having a helper to assist a disabled fancier timing in but the very first time that the assistant does not turn up for any reason the disabled fancier will be discriminated against. Provision of stall traps" etc - Peter Bryant This is nonsense who "helps" the guy catch his birds to take them to the club to have them race marked at the moment Peter? Who helps scrape them out to ensure the disabled fanciers birds are not less healthy than the able bodied fanciers Peter? Explain why timing in (IN THE TERMS OF THE ACT)is so very much more important then? I REPEAT THERE IS NOTHING AND I MEAN NOTHING IN THE ACT THAT PROHIBITS A TRADITIONAL PAST TIME, BECAUSE FOR INSTANCE SOMEBODY WHO ENJOYED THAT PAST TIME BECAME A PARAPLYGIC AS THE RESULT OF A MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT. How could there be it is absolute stupidity to suggest otherwise. "Clock and Thimble" pigeon racing is a traditional past time going back more than a hundred years.Enjoy your past time don't let fools or bullies or lawyers stop you enjoying it!

Agree with you Poacher but its not just people from Belgium who dump "junk" here check the "for sale" section on this site they seem to have a few willing helpers! I also agree that ETS is coming but that is because the "Unions" have cottoned on to the fact that there is a lot of money to be made from selling ETS rings. I can confirm there is nothing in "The Disability Act " that make traditional past times illegal if that is what Peter Bryant's lawyer told him he should get a second opinion and refuse to pay his first lawyers bill.They will be telling us next that the 100 meters has been banned.!! Absolute garbage timing the bird in is an integral part of the sport for the vast majority. This is the most blatant case of the tail wagging the dog I have seen for a very long time and I can think of one late pigeon fancier who would have gave me a skelp with their stick if I tried to make them a special case. Fanciers disabled or otherwise who want to "move with the times" fine carry on. Fanciers who want to promote and preserve traditonial pigeon racing there is no court in the land going to object trust me!

I am getting fed up with pro ETS guys using disabled people as an excuse for the introduction of the system if you want to introduce it do it above board not using people less fortunate as ourselves as an excuse or for that matter by an entire committee walking off a platform. How many seriously disabled people keep pigeons for god sake???????? If a club is set up to preserve traditional "clock and thimble" pigeon racing end of story no problem what is big deal. NONE. People who are "Disabled" who keep pigeons manage to look after them, I know some of them and they would find it offensive to have themselves used in this way . A seriously disabled person would not be able to look after his birds properly anyway so we then enter the realms of thwe"Animal Welfare" brigade. If it comes in fine the disabled person can join a local club using ETS.Traditional flyers can be members of club promoting traditional pigeon racing what is the problem????????????

thanks for that last post fifer and i mean that most sincerely

Exactly but i taught her french and when she spoke to one of the "natives" up bye the first thought that entered her head was "christ how the phuck did I end up in Norway"

to be fair it stopped shaking and shouting "gets a pint" after a year or two on prozac!!!!!!!!!!!

I once had a doo return late from a race with a note in its leg that said "fed watered and liberated in Lochgelly" the first thing it said when I opened the trap and let it in was "have you ever seen that film deliverance"

sorry about that last post peggy just in case bRUNO is watching I forgot the !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats the problem with fifers "delusions of granduers"

if you are serious log off, stop drinking and make arrangements to attend your nearest AA jamboree as soon as possible. On second thoughts don't, you would drive anyone to drink !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cook them on thanks giving will you, save sacrificing the first born I suppose!!!!!!!!!!!!

not really did you mean to the left and UP A WEE BIT is that just not a png?

are you sure ma doos widnae need a front lab tae cross the forth???

I must be even thicker don't even understand your post?????????

"YEAH BUT YOU DOOOOOOO GIVE THEM TOOOOOO YOUR PALS DONT YOU " NEVER REFUSED A GENUINE "DOOMAN" YET ALTHOUGH THEY DON'T ALWAS GET TOLD "WHIT THEY AFF" THEY MIGHT BE FEART THEY WOULD SOME DAMAGE IF THEY "DROPPED THEM"

"HEY ME YOU GOT GOOD DOO'S?" YOU BETTER BELIEVE THAT IS WHY I AM NOT ADVERTISING THEM ON THE "FOR SALE" SECTION - THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIFE IS TO SERIOUS FOR LAUGHS EH bRUNO!!

WHERE YOU BEEN ALL NIGHT DOOSTALKER T"HE ARGYLL" OR IS WAS THAT TOO BUSY FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i THINK GOOD PEOPLE YOU CAN APPRECIATE AFTER READING THE LAST FEW POSTS ON THIS THREAD (FROM "THE USUAL SUSPECTS") THE DANGER OF GIVING A SCOTSMAN AN EXTRA HOUR TO DRINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Soon we will all be swimming ...... the alleged state of the bridges" you won't get away with that we are going to have snipers at Queensferry and kincardine

i would take nothing away from these performances Mike, Mr and Mrs Littles bird especially fantastic performance but exceptions don't make the rule. If you want to time birds late at night after 17 hours on the wing darkness is not for you. guess i'm saying pigeons for courses.

"£1 to get into fife yir right ,we are only 80p to get in the other end" imagine having the cheek to charge to get into that place and its a tenner to get oot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"AYE AND THE WEE MAN WANTED TO BUY A PIGEON BUT OLD PEGGY TOLD HIM NOT TO BE DAFT AS HE CAN MOOCH THEM OFF HIS PALS FOR NOTHING " "Peggy" is not a scribe for the BHW is he?

if you want to win afew young bird prizes over relatively short distances do what you like with then. If you want to race old birds over a number of years over long distances I'm afraid you will have to look after them properely

"its OK cos I am a lassie" no problems Dandydoo give us a shout if you need any help sorting out the cocks from the hens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!