Jeremy

Dont know about blowing them up, but they will be calling you the blow home boy.That award was for the birds that was put up for it and i can tell you there was not 150 thousand. How can you judge that when all the wind directions are different on areas of the country.A paper bag is fast with the wind up its backside. ;D

Linda. I am afraid im not the only 1. I said that i am finished with it. But thats just me not the others on here. Enough said Linda.

There you go if this had been said 2 weeks ago maybe i could have sorted something. But now i am going to forget it. When the money comes i will return it.

You dont have to read it Linda.

Hold on a minute Linda Coxy Pm something to me that i think he should of said in the first place.

Coxy Can you tell everyone on here what you PM me about the money you sent and why so its in the open.

Hi Blackjack Everyone is doing fine mate. Happy Xmas and have a great New Year..

Happy Birthday Rose. :K)

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Vic You are now insulting Roland and calling everyone amateurs why should you be allowed to come on this site anymore? This site is going down hill fast and its driving genuine fanciers away

By Vic missing you already. ;D

Wiley it is a matter for pigeon basics as it was posted on here and it was aimed at a person not at the pigeon chat site.

Hello Vic I just want to know why your having ago at Chris Balson? What has he done to you to bring about this bad vibe? He has given fanceirs alot of good advice about many aspects of the sport and he has put many hours into helping novices and top fanceirs. I dont know what your on about him beating 300 birds his birds have beat thousands and i can see him at the top of his game in the next 5 years.So why stick the Knife in Vic ?

Hi Coxy Todays post no money you said that you sent it recorded delivery but i have PM you for the Post No to check it out but no reply. Coxy i think you deffo need to get some help with the problem you have. I also think you should be taken off this site because you have wasted alot of fanceirs time on here.

Well coxy answer your on this site

No cash through the post yet. I said i will give him untill today to get the money here as i have an advert in this weeks book. I wish i put them in there in the first place i sold the 9 pairs that i wanted to by 12 noon today. I have PM coxy but no reply i am sorry coxy but the money was not here in time and they are sold. If the money does turn up very slow post then i will post it back to you recorded special delivery. If it never turns up then i think you need some kind of help as there is something wrong with you.

Hi Bilco Thank you for your offer to trail Xerek If any birds go into the sick bay then I will put them straight onto your product for 48 hours if by then I see no improvement then I will have to put them on a broad spectrum antibiotic advised by a vet. I will give your product a fair trail and of course let everyone know the results good or bad. I hope it does work because nothing else does. My address I will put below. Regards J Davies Home Farm Rye Street Birtsmorton Nr Malvern Worcs WR13 6AS

Hi Bilco Thank you for your reply. If these lofts told you the symptoms of bringing there food up ect it could be fungal irritating the crop or even canker and also worms and bacteria infections that can have these symptoms all that can be treated. If the 137 fanciers were never tested you cannot be sure that they had the real YBS which is Circovirus and is said to be the prime sickness causing agent. Andervirus type 1 and Circovirus I have put allot of research into this and the top vets in the world tell you there is no cure only you can treat to help the secondary infections. I said that I think you are talking bull when you say after Xerek is given they are ready to fly in 4 hours well to me that is total rubbish. The 6 fanciers that said Xerek had no effect they could off had the real YBS but this is guess. To me Bilco you have no real scientific edvince that your product does cure YBS your just guessing .I have never had the Proper YBS in my own pigeons but only in some birds that come into the 1 loft carrying that virus if we see any symptoms they are isolated on a loft on there own and treated with products that attack secondary infections. If I pay the postage costs I will trail your product and see if they are ready to fly in 4 hours but I don’t think they will but I am willing to give it a try.I am not having a go at you I just want to combat this dreaded virus. Look forward to your answer. Jeremy.

Bruno Your artical that you have put on agrees with mine totally. I run a 1 loft race and have seen every bug under the sun come in with pigeons carrying a virus before they come in. Bilco if you have got chemicals which are a trade secret and they cure YBS or CIRCOVIRUS which plays the biggest part of YBS then would it not be best to let fancey no what your product contains so we the fanceirs cant fight and beat this dreaded virus?

Bilco You quoted <Mixed Carbonates" - the actual Carbonates concerned and the percentages of each are a trade secret ! > Alot of fanceirs when there birds are ill they blame YBS i can tell you if you get this there is no cure if it is ybs or Circovirosis you only can help treat the secondary infections. You quoted within 4 hours there ready to fly well to me thats bull. I also like to no what chemicals i am giving to my birds before i buy a product but thats a trade secret :-/. Have you got written data of the field trials and did you have them tested for ybs before the trial?

Nowadays we hear a lot of pigeon fanciers talk about circovirosis (in Belgium first diagnosed in 1998). Circovirosis is a viral infection of very young pigeons damaging the thymus and Bursa of Fabricii. These two particular organs are essential for the resistance of our pigeons. By damaging these organs, some infections will occur easier and some vaccinations will not give a full protection anymore (for example paramyxovirosis). New investigations of the pigeon population in Belgium have shown us that a big part of the population is already infected or has been in contact with the circovirus at some time. EM pigeon bursa: circovirosis Photo: Poultry and Special Animal Diseases University of Ghent At the moment there is not a lot information available yet about the consequences of an infection with the circovirus. The already known consequences of this infection are mainly secondary infections which can be treated with our regular medicines. Almost always secondary clinical infections (= lack of resistance): Paramyxovirosis Herpes, Adenovirosis Colibacillosis, salmonellosis Mould (Aspergillosis or Candidiasis) Trichomonosis Etc... Curative (= in case of illness): Not!! We can only deal with the secondary infections by treating them with the regular medicines. We can also improve the resistance of our pigeons with OROVITAL and FORTALYT (= electrolytes). Prevention: There is no vaccine available Avoiding overpopulation and maintaining a good hygiene on the pigeon loft will be of great importance in the battle against this new challenge for the pigeon sport

The last few years we see more and more problems with our young pigeons. Mostly we see a combination of an infection with the Adenovirus and the E. Coli bacteria. The Adenovirus type 1 damages the intestinal cells whereby an environment with a lot of proteins provides the ideal circumstances for a strong growth of the E. Coli bacteria. This E. Coli, which overgrows the normal intestinal flora, can produce toxins which can reach the blood and cause an intoxication. The young pigeons become sick and sometimes they even die. Sometimes this disease also goes hand in hand with Hexamitiase. Pigeon liver: intranuclear inclusions of an adenovirus I infection Photo: Poultry and Special Animal Diseases University of Ghent A full struma and a bad digestion Vomiting Green, slimy droppings A bad appetite and condition Sometimes death Curative (= in case of illness): At the first clinical signs of a young pigeon disease it is advisable to treat 7 to 8 days with THERAPRIM (1 scoop or sachet in 2 litres of drinking water) and TRICHO PLUS (1 scoop or sachet in 1 litre of drinking water). At the same time we can also administer 7 to 8 days probiotics on the food (for instance Digestal Colombine): 2 soupspoons on 2 kilograms of food. Supporting: To stimulate the local immunity and resistance in the intestinal tract we can administer 2 or 3 times a week ECOCURE (10 ml/L) in the drinking water Important: Immediately start at the first signs of an infection with a treatment of the complete loft During illness feed all the pigeons light (this means: a protein low diet (Gerry Plus) or Superdiet with corn

What does Xerek contain how does it work against YBS??? ;D

For a young fancier of 15 it is very good well done. ;D

Hi All I have been told today the entries are coming in faster than ever this year.There are nearly 600 entries already booked so if your thinking of having a go get your form in asap. ;D