THE FIFER

I think the question has been answered for what the thread was opened for, and the best way if someone wishes to leave the site would be to Pm admin, and if needbe talk it over with them, as going on the open forum just doesnt get anywhere, so think it would be to everyones interest to close this topc now, thanks for your cooperation,

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The problem with this subject is: pigeon fanciers are in constituttional organisations, CLUBS, FEDERATIONS who each are run by their members and voted in place by them, they each have their rules, both have a governing body namely the UNIONS who make the constitutional rules which both clubs and federations have to abide by, the unions are the same as clubs and feds,their councils and officials are choosen by the members, club and fed rules must be approved by the union,and cannot over rule or conflict with any union rule, that is constitutional organisations, websites are not constitutional organisations, they are privately owned, just like a shop or business, so are governed by their owners, who are responsible for the sites, and like private businesses need the members so do their best to keep them happy by running a good shop, but, and yes listen to members questions etc, but as said they are not owned by the membership, I go into many websites but have yet to see any which is run by members they are run by the webmaster, and at the end of the day webmasters Mods are only keeping the site in line to run smovely so we can all benifit and enjoy them, thanks.

not bad for a week-night 136 ,

good all on again i think,

yes working ok m8, sent one back

try jimmy

I sent one to jimmy and its working, but not to oldyellow

not paid the gas bill ;D ;D ;D better starting a pigeon carrier service

no not working

not working yet

is your box not full

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we do but all mods can see them so if we want to talk about each other we use PM's ;D ;D end of story on this one as its just causing discontent,

well I certainly cant and wouldnt know how to, and the same with vallance and mods, and I use the pm system all the time, and certainly wouldnt if I thought for a minute they could be read, and so does vallance and the rest of the mods.

keep up the good banter lads but a couple of posts had to be moved, just keep them in order, cheers

I'm going by the code 01333

thats in levenmouth, is it not

sorry roland have sent pm in answer to your post, as posted we are going off topic, my first post was really answering a question, but we better keep to the topic, ,

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you certainly cant be a member of a fed in scotland without being a member of a club.

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yes the shu you can but not the Federation,

normaly its clubs which are members of a fed not individual members, individuals ar affiliated through the club,

the scarecrow water jet keeps them away, also i got a new ultrasonic gadget from the sunday post, its the best one i have ever had, large,you can have the sound so only animals hear ir or you can have it on alarm, which gives off one good screach,so can also be good for intruders as well,also has a light on it which keeps birds away, I have 5 cats next door,see them about a lot but not in my back yard,