the problem is not with delegates, its with the members just letting them do and vote as they wanted, delegates are MESSENGERS, they go to meetings and do as instructed by their members, but how often does this happen, each organisation should have a meeting before a fed or shu meeting and go over the agenda and tell their delegates how to vote and what they want, this is at delegates meetings, not AGMs as they are free for all to vote as they please, and one thing which does happen but should never if organisations are run correctly is delegates from the same organisation voting against each other, they are MESENGERS, and should have been diercted by their members as how to go, and in the past it has not been the delegates fault as they were alowed to do as they though fit, so its the members fault. too lazy to have meetings, and dont get me wrong my own organisation is the worst enemy for this so i am not getting at any special one, so clubs should have meetings to instruct their delegates what to do at the fed meetings and feds should have meetings to do the same for SHU meetings, delegates are MESSENGERS