the heading of your thread say it all (what an idiot) the bit that got me was the trees were bent double, and its pi$$ing down, if i was a doo and you put me up in that i would'nt be coming back even if i could. my birds are trained in reasonable weather from about 10 mile or not at all and we can still do ok against around 1000 birds top 10 1st 3 races, so there's no need to torcher your birds like that no simpathy here im affraid.