Yeah but the point is that some people want it all.... If people want to show what ever kind of bird then let them! Why moan? If the judge picks it because its best looking then thats his opinion. If the judge picks a bird because it has all the qualities of a bird he'd fly national then thats his opinion. It is one mans opinion. But all the moaning about this and moaning about that is totally unfair on the guys who put 100% into there birds. I spent a fortune on birds and it costs me a bomb to feed and compete at shows. When I was at a show the other week with 8 birds I won both classes, took 6 cards. Then when they came with prizemoney I told them to keep it as I was just there for a day out and catch up. Should I be punished because I bought in good looking birds!? Now 3 years of putting best looker to best looker has resulted in a team of great lookers. I enjoy having a loft full of my good lookers. Its a joy to see! So do I pack in because a couple poeple moan?? NOPE I just let them say what they like and move on to next show. But to come on moaning when the guys are trying to start up a show is a disgrace! Let the moaners go to the trouble and expense of having a big show, let them see how much time and effort goes into it. I am happy just to see a big show back in lothians and fife. And I applaude the guys behind getting it back. All the best with the show..... And sadly I wont be there but I hope its supported and becomes annual