well i spoke on the phone to Paul Osborne on the island of Alderney today it was me that started this thread regarding the birds that were lost from messac i believe after talking to Paul today there was no fog on the English channel as i was lead to believe May i apologise for any hurt to Jim Hannah,Peter Calder and Raymond White this thread may have caused as none was intended I only wanted to find answers to why near on 1000 birds disappeared