no he is just not so much of a bully now .did not say in my post this cock does not race any more he is keep as flying stock. the cock i done it to last year went a wee bit of color as he was not getting his own way. what you have to watch for is if the cock in question fights badly with the same cock time and again ,watch the rolls don,t get reversed . this is the cock that was a pain last year .he had 5 boxes that he would fight for as well as his own. after a few days with string 2 of the boxes where taken over by 2 pair. he had the string taken off after 6 or 7 days .and the 2 pair settled in to the boxes no more problems with him .even this year he has taken one box no problems from him. i did make a point of making sure he had one of the top boxes this year.he is happy no troubles in loft so i am happy with him.as some have said better to be done with a cock like this.better to try one or two different things to stop it. in his case i am glad i did as 2 coulorful yearling scored well in last years ob,s and the only yb i had from him was my best yb . one yb hawked the others given away