NANCYVIEWLOFTS

take a small jug of warm water place the 2 eggs in the water and wait a few seconds for the water to settle if the eggs have live young in them they will kick slightly if they dont then they are likely to be dead in shell the water will not harm them

cheers for that usefull info symbro and chatrace my mind is now at rest

good bit of advice slugmonkey would do that way if i tried the bull system but do you think that the strength of the sperm weakens

most brands of corn are ok i think your right about the cod liveroil too soon for that and dont put multivites in the water when rearing as youngsters cant hold them at an early age they dispell them out causing watery droppings

hi sorry your having to call it a day i bet your gutted to say the least lets hope it wont be to long before you can find a place away from your nightmare neighbours and burottic council all the best

sorry jimmy cant agree with you take another look at race horse breeders if they want a 5 or 6 furlong fold they have covered by a stallion that has done the business at that distance likewise at 1 and half -2 milers thats selective breeding of course only my view

hi all what are your views on the bull system for breeding my own view is that the strongest sperm gets through first so each time he covers another hen the sperm gets weaker and weaker so at the end its like potato water

hi why do it

i think you are all missing the point i know it is done so as to get more eggs off your best birds be it breeders or racers but does it mess the immune system up in the young birds alot of experts say dont bring a lot of young birds in from different lofts as this contributes to young bird sickness i may be on the wrong track but can you see my point ie pair 1 as its own immune system then eggs floated under pair2 who also have theirown immune system give me a good b------ing if i dont make sense

HI EVERYONE WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON FLOATING EGGS FROM ONE PAIR TO ANOTHER DO THEY HAVE AN IMMUNE SYSTEM ALREADY WHILE IN THE EGG THEN WHEN HATCHED UNDER FOSTER PARENTS AND ARE FED BY THEM DO THEY HAVE ANOTHER IMMUNE SYSTEM GIVEN TO THEM IF THIS IS SO COULD THIS BE SOMETHING TO DO WITH YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS KICKING IN EACH FANCIERS LOFTS

HI DIAMOND DAVE SORRY DID NT REPLY RIGHT AWAY BUT HAS BEEN ANSWERED PERFECTLY BY ALL THE OTHER FANCIERS ON THIS THREAD

METRAN 200{metronidazole} cheap as chips treats over 20 types of canker for prevention quarter of a tablet down throat if you cant get METRAN ask for FLAGYAL 250

orego stim pigeon liquid is a great product i am always sceptical about any product but decided to try it and can honestly say that it clearly makes a difference and remember its a NATURAL product

YOUVE CONVERTED ME IM JOINING THE LAZY BRIGADE IM GOING ON A DEEP LITTER OF CAT LITTER DOWN FIRST ON THE FLOOR FOR EXTRA ABSORBANCE COVERED WITH 3 INCH OF EASY BED

DONT KNOW BUT HE SURE IS UGLY

to me deep litter is for the lazy with the exception of the disabled or eldery horse and greyhound trainers clean out every day and pigeon fanciers should do the same even more now with the avian flu critics about keep less birds and a smaller loft

just a thought westy what distance do you mean by distance birds 500 600 700 miles

slow sprinters and quickly burnt out distance birds try following the method of race horse breeders they only put like to like

dont try to fill all your nest boxes and young bird perches in your first season remember its quality not quantity that you want all the best for this year

do you have your old birds out when you are rearing if so they could be picking at something that is in the ground or on the roof one hand full of mixture per pair per day and a pot of beans or maple peas in front of them all the time make sure minerals are in front of them all the time or else they go mad for them when you give it to them keep them in while rearing remember the rearing season is for rearng not exercising orego stim in the water keeps the gut clear its a natural product for drier droppings in both young and old birds

IVE TRIED GRILLS IN THE BOX AND ON THE FLOOR IVE TRIED DEEP LITTER BUT IM BACK TO THE SCRAPER TWICE A DAY AND THE BLOW LAMP ONCE A WEEK WITH THE YOUNG BIRDS ITS A SEMI DEEP LITTER UNTIL THE WEEK AFTER THE FIRST RACE

there is a product out now called avi-cell-fe which is for pigeons no need to guess the dosage its on the label

there is a product out now called avi-cell-fe which is for pigeons no need to guess the dosage its on the label

hi thanks for your email these birds win from 70 miles to 420 miles thanks again george

WE HAVE FOR SALE HALF OF OUR 1ST ROUND YB'S FOR SALE DIRECT FROM OUR STOCK AND WIDOWHOOD LOFT. ALL MNFC RUNG. STRAINS VAN REETS DIRECT FROM MR/MRS MARDON, DEAN PALLET, AND IAN STAFFORD. SOOTJENS FROM FRANK SHEADER STOCK ALL ONE PRICE £20 EACH OR 6 FOR £100 COME AND PICK YOUR OWN OR APPLY WITH CONFIDENCE GEORGE AND LINDA GREENWOOD EMAIL ME FOR FURTHER INFO l.greenwood24@ntlworld.com PS THEY WILL BE READY IN APPROX 2 WEEKS END OF FEB