I was at a local sale a week gone Sunday,went with no intentions of buying,my lofts 12 X 6 with 35 youngens in,IMO plenty,they were just about begging fanciers to take them home.I bought a cracking youngen from a Scottish national winning loft for less than the price of two packets of fags,and I don't smoke.Well pleased. Lindsay. PS. There were some cheaper.