in all honesty Bern ,its a shot in the dark .he has won club,fed and combine tickets back in Wales for me .in 18 months at stock up here bred 3 x 1st fed and Grandsire to a 1st fed ,with the same hen (with production like that i dont want to split them) it maybe the hen who is adding the quality ? but at least it will give me some answers ,hopefully good ones ?