there are many and some suit areas better than others the RDD will take a lot of beating once they are established they are a perfect type for the british terrain the wim moens are flying well in the midlands these are based on the old Storces so iam told the walter docx are also flying well janssen based lambrects another family that have also done well andre clements another you could go on and on there are plenty but its what the fancier him self likes