i fly roundabout when i say they land on the roofs where my loft is there is a house about 15 ft away from the loft so when they have had a nuf they go to the roof they might fly for 10 or 15 mins or longer but as i said when they have had anuf they land on the roof and it drives me mad so i was thinking about trainning them every day im a taxi driver and iv getting a job on the line of flight for a year so ill get paid for taking them away aswell its about 15ml i go twice a day mornning and night