jordanp31

thanks for all the input... I have had the neighbors down the road(not the stuck up ones next door) report the bird earlier this week. My dogs have seen the cat since trying to get at the loft but they chased it off... I have two air rifles and when it happend i thought of going over the fence and shooting it in its own garden but i know i only get fined or prosecuted. The eggs did hatch some time last nite as i found two squeaks in the bowl this morning. My new loft is nearly finsihed so i iwll be ably to get some of my birs into it probably next week. It is hopefully cat proof because i have fitted a bob-wire trap high up on the loft... Thanks for all advice

My dogs would rip it apart if they could get to the loft but i recently put a new fence up to stop the dog getting near the loft. The dogs would never harm any of my birds but when they are around it they think they belong with them and keep trying to get in... When it happend yesterday i got a bit P****D off and started shouting to the neighbours about what i was gonna do to their cat. I have had a few encounters with it before and them when it killed a few of my ducks... Thanks for the help bruno!!! any more input is really appretiated...

yesterday a cat got into my loft. It killed 1 bird before i could get it out. I dont know how it got in but i think it climbed up to the trap and then dropped in. The bird was ripped apart and i just saw the cat dragging it back to its house. The next door neighbours who own this cat are really stuck up. They dont care that it killed one of my pets and constantly teases my dogs. Has anything similar happened to anyone else because i need some advice on how to deal with the situation. P.S i only have a small amount of fancy birds and this has devastated me because i had a pair on eggs and they were disturbed and didnt go back to the eggs for about half an hour after...Will these eggs stil hatch??? any input is really appretiated... :-/

Even though rooney didnt make any BIG chances or score...you cant knock the effort he puts in. He was knocking all the sweeds off the ball. He aint a player who has to have his hair gelled before he plays, he is just an old fashioned battler... SACK THE SWEEDE

no they have feathers to just above the knees

thanks jimmy

hyacinth...do you measure the outside toe on the one foot to the outside toe on the other foot??? I will have to try this method!do you make many mistakes???

The bird is one that i lost bout 6 months ago... it came back in good condition and i only had 4 birds at the time so i decided to keep it. Because i have just started out with rolers and tumblers i really wanted to keep the bird.Because i only had a few birds i need to keep as many as i can.

Its not for motivation purposes its just because i hav had a spare egg laid on the floor and i just wanted it to hatch... By the way how long can a pigeon leave an egg without it 'dying'??? I have thrown the egg out anyway because it got dented... thanks for the advice...

i have just read a previos thread and have noticed that it said something about having more than 2 eggs under a bird. I have a problem in my loft at the moment and i was wondering if it is ok to put 3-4 eggs under a bird or will it put them off the eggs they are already sat on...? please help ;D

hi paul i am new to the hobby and i have found that the easiest way is to watch their behaivior... the cocks drag their tales on the ground etc. Also they blow their crops up and coo deeper than the hens. Many people tell buy shape of the head. I dont use this method but i think if you feel the head then the hens should have a rounder head than the cocks. apart from the methods i just said their are many others like some people just do it on size(cocks are bigger) but i dont trust this method as i have made many mistakes... hope this helps...

thanks for all the advice...i havent moved my birds out of my old loft yet so i havent got any nest boxes free. I have just put the bowl on the floor so do you think it will be ok...

The cock has no rings on it or rubbers... It is a really nice looking bird. I will not be able to get rid of it because i have had him bout a month and i havent managed to pair him up.

hi one of my pairs has been thrown out of their nest bowl by a stray cock... today the pair have laid an egg on the floor right by the door of the loft. i have put the egg in a bowl. does any think that they will lay the other egg in the bowl i provided??? I really need to get a good few youngsters this year so i can get them in my new loft.... can anyone help... :-/

no jimmy their wings are fully intact!!! its just the photo

Thanks john i will remember that info... Any other info or guidence is greatly appretiated...

hi mate welcome to the forum... i have just started up myself and this forum has helped me loads. Ask anyone any question and they will always have an aswer for you. Stick ate the hobby and you will be rewarded....

Thanks rockinrick and hyacinth that is some very helpful infomation... Can i just ask if i have them about 10 inches square i have worked out that i will not have enough room for the other bird to stand by the side of the bowl in the nest...Will this matter or will the other bird just get on a perch somewhere else in the loft??? sorry for all the questions...

thanks for the advice morton... I am not going to buy ready made fronts, i think i will just make them myself.sorry to mislead you but I do not have racing pigeons i have got rolers. Has anyone got any sizes or measuments that they would advise me to build my boxes too??? tahnks for the advice...

Hi i have just had a new loft and i have been building in it for some time now. It has come for me to start building nest boxes. The only problem is that i dont know what size to have??? :-/ I have got the ceramic bowls and i just want to know how small i can possibly have the boxes because i need to save space...Also i need to know if i need a door on the front of them so i can close them off??? any help is really appretiated...

thanks for all the advice everyone!!!! thanks alan wilkins...i will speak to you about coming to have a look round your lofts... also i will keep you all updated on the situation

I have a pair in my loft that lost a pair of eggs and now they have lost both youngsters at week old. I am new to the hobby and i was just wondering if their is any chance of them going down on a third round of eggs? I will be moving all of the birds out of my old loft and into a new one but i would like them to have some youngsters before i move them. Also how old deos a pigeon hve to be until it is mature enough to have youngsters??? any help from anyone would be really apreatiated.

the was an old man from devon who fell in the river severn he couldnt get so he swollowed a trout and now he is up in heaven...

when is the moult in england?? will the feaher moult out for definate because i have left the quill untouched... thanks for the infomation...

hi i recently got a new pair of cock birds off my mate so that i could make up some pairs with the spair hen s in my loft. They were older birds so i new they would be hard to break to my loft. My mate who has been in pigeons for years cut the wing feathers for me...When i mean cut the wing feathers i mean cut the 'fluff' of the stem of the feathers leaving the bare quill. It worked very well and i let the birds out after a week and they never flew more than 20 meters from the loft. The only problem is i now want them flying to their full capability so how can i get the full feathers back... will new feathers come through during the moult or will i hve to pull all of the cut feathers out??? thanks alot