The art of breeding , a good start is winners , in this game nothing is guaranteed the price of a pigeon is only ever determined by how much you are willing to pay for it . Market is a simple supply and demand system . Two champions seem to be the ideal to give the best progeny . However due to genetics of nature it's more likely you get birds that don't home and refer back to the wild type . You are just as likely to breed good progeny from two nothings . Winners are a very small percentage of birds ever bred . However in your quest you will breed good homers , these wont win but are the vital steps to breeding that freak of nature the winner . These are the 2% of a racing loft . Nature always wants to breed robust birds these wont always be fastest these are bred purely for survival in your quest is to breed the freak the winner . So as stated the winners are best to start with these contain that freak gene you wish to have within your loft , now you have a collection of birds the best way to form a family is around the freak the winner so best to put this bird to as many birds within your loft if a cock this can be done on a bull system and this will determine the best hen for your selected cock . But nature is working against the freak and many will revert back to the wild type . So hopefully the freak you have passes the genes on through his next generation these are the true freak as genes pass from generation to generation . The more freaks you have within your loft the better the outcome for racing is . I have read upon this forum that certain flyer has bred years upon winners then nothing , yes this happens as the freak genes is depleted , good lofts bring in one freak line from the best he can seek and run through his birds , in reality most be of the wild type , some be good homers others will be consistent and only a few will ever be that freak , there's only ever one winner in each race the rest also runs . Lock in the freak genes and breed the winners . All the best OLDYELLOW