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Well done guys :emoticon-0137-clapping: :emoticon-0137-clapping:

Nice birds and photos and great performances Lee all the best for 2013

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1st Club Clermont 358 miles 10th fed this year fed for me , fed cancelled two channel races , I get plenty in fed result , and as for the novice I've helped out for two years in Hetton fed he didn't buy one bird his father asked me if I'd breed him some . Not to mention birds I've sent out to help others for free and loaned stock and gave birds away , I actually don't like selling birds nor the hassle that goes along with it , but those that have bought birds have received good birds and most come back , I get asked to supply far more than I can cope with , I'm certainly never going to be a bird factory in a 38 x 6ft loft , I wont be advertising any as I don't need to , I have enough people returning to me and I try to genuinely help be it with birds or advice I never push birds or hold a gun to anyone's head . Plenty of members out there I've helped and received many pms of thanks , I'm not money orientated that's not my goal helping others is

Sellers cock which I also call the envelope cock yup the envelope was his pedigree never seen a race basket breeding winners , ok it was selected out of a good performing cock so the price to pay was a high one so he never saw a basket never won a race himself but a proven breeder yes , race winning birds don't guarantee winners had plenty that were out and out racers and nothing good came out of them , so winner to winner can equal = inferior birds just as much as two non raced birds. Most things happen by chance two birds that click and breed winners surely this is the beginning product of the race loft not the end product of the race loft . Without breeders there's no race winners .

Bet there's many a champion racer that's left nothing but disappointment in the breeding loft not every winner breeds there type , one of my current breeders was crap on the road but bred good birds up to 1st club 13th fed for a novice friend plus 2nd club year before , If he bred his like they'd be in the bin , Sally Gunnel's parents couldn't run a marathon , breeding from proven birds that breed winners is the start , but the attributes required to win are all natural and far more random or we would all have just a few birds from winners breeding winners , birds will alway be by natures design not man's , I'm with Dal sometimes other factors come out like within my family I started with mainly grizzles and reds and yellows , most of my full coloured birds from my grizzles flew much better , chocs in mulemans tend to breed good birds but poor racers the best racers were blues pencils ectra but not chocolate . Pete Thorpe discussed with me about a pair of nothings , breeding no end of winners for him and others , so selection is the hardest thing even Deklacks had his eye on binning a hen that he left be had ybs and the hen was nothing , yup that hen made deklack famous and bred far more winners than most of these so called super bred champions of paperwork pedigrees with umpteen winners on .

Pigeon Basics Annual Show , It's that time again to take the camera to the loft and start taking some photo's for our annual show . The show will be 'FREE OF CHARGE' however there will be 3 cards for each class 1st 2nd and 3rd and a small trophy for best in show and THEFIFER has now added a small prize of £50 for best in show , Cards and Trophy will be presented at Blackpool show at the Arena Hall 1'o'clock prompt on the Saturday 19th January 2013., remember this is supposed to be a bit of fun and classes have been made to suit most fanciers. Dates below are for the closing date for entry's and when the winner of each class is to be announced . Class 1 Raced young birds cock any distance 1st Pen 41 with 14 votes Stan The Man 2nd Pen 13 with 9 votes Aye Ready 3rd was a tie between 9 and 10 , my vote goes to 9 Aye Ready Class 2 Raced young birds hen any distance 1st Pen 9 with 11 votes Aye Ready 2nd Pen 10 with 6 votes Aye Ready, 3rd was a 3 way tie between 31 and 38 and 2, my vote goes to 31 Gordi b Class 3 Best Sex Raced young bird any distance from above 2 Classes Winner announced on 17th November 1st 2 with 30 votes to 17 Aye Ready 2nd goes to number 1 with 17 votes Stan The Man 3rd with 29 votes 4 Aye Ready against 3 with 18 votes well done Class 4 Raced old birds cock up to 200 miles Winner announced on 17th November 1st 19 with 9 votes Whitty 2nd with 12 with 8 votes MPB 3rd 7 with 7 votes Flying Fifer well done and thank you all for your entry's and support Class 5 Raced old birds hens up to 200 miles Winner announced on 18th November 1st 9 with 21 votes Clockman 2nd 11 with 12 votes Byron 3rd 1 with 7 votes Whitty well done to the winners Class 6 Raced old birds cock 201 to 399 miles Winner announced on 24th November 1st Pen 5 with 17 votes Aye Ready 2nd Pen 15 with 16 votes Clockman 3rd Pen 3 with 11 votes Byron Class 7 Raced old birds hens 201 to 399 miles Entry's in by 20th December Winner announced on 25th November 1st Pen 8 with 19 votes Aye Ready 2nd Pen 9 with 15 votes Aye Ready 3rd Pen 6 with 5 vote Aye Ready Class 8 Raced old birds cock 400 miles plus 1st Pen 2 with 20 votes Clockman 2nd Pen 3 with 15 votes Flying Fifer 3rd Pen 8 with 5 votes Basin View

Dream come true , double top all reds

very nice set up

Nearest to Adrian Flux was swift but still £9 dearer so stuck with them for another year

Bell = £673 PMSL

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I still have Kirkpatricks some are still pure but most have been crossed with either Janssens , Deweerdts and Van Braunes because those crosses are kicking out good birds for me and others Kirky's birds originated from mine which I bought in 92/93

Ok guys who's the cheapest company's out there ????? got renewal at £260.31 with Adrian Flux

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makes a mockery out of protection of endangered birds

pm sent

Some cheap birds there good luck with your sale

fungus on face , guess that be wattles lol

Think they be better finding someone local to collect the pigeon

Well done my Favourite dog breed

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