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are the flying ?

well as im going to bed if there flying on this it may niot be meeting there dietry neededs and they may need to be moved on to a yb mix such as Junior 'o' ill have alook at thread tomorrow

im not up on the breed and wean mix , has it got safflower in it ?

what food are you feeding them ?

its a possibility but also could be that there drinking vast amounts of water so they feel full as arent eating properly

how long have they been removed from the parents and were they feeding before been moved ?

how old are they ?

Very nice loft hope you have many winner in it in the future

it is if bird dont sit out because clock shy week after and loose races because of it

been disabled myself i can see the advantages of the ets but its there not to advantage anyone but put all abilitys on an equal footing if they wish to embrase the technology on offer , hopefully finances will allow me to get it in for this season if not i shall have it for next season without a doubt

natural propertys in food stuff such as vegetables herbs and spices can have benificial effects on your birds the antioxidant nature or some food stuffs can help the effects of lactic acid build up whilst birds racing , the lactic acid built up tires the muscles so ineffect the bird is aching relieve this and prevent from happening could prolong the flyte of the bird before tiring or coming down to rest Enchinea a good immunity barier for pigeons is a good bad bug barrier and aids the urinary tract ectra and respirity disease , orgeo - stim a derivative from oregano obviously none of these new but well known but are becoming very popular because of there effectiveness , as the lists have far more items on i thought it would benifit others who like to use natural products for there birds

besides rather fly in a good national ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

frank get over yas sen i did ye only read what ye wanna

all clocks are great as long as there working like been said before see what your clubs using makes it alot easier for secatarys using one system and when buying rings can buy in bulk spreading the cost between a few

herbs and fresh foods and there effects on pigeons intrest me and getting a good balance of food and the propertys of food vitamins ectra are important to create strong pigeons that dont ail in the wild they find what they need naturaly we have to give our birds what they need and more products are been used and most are natural ones , id rather give my birds vegetables garlic and ginger amongst other thing for certain ailments and have worked and reading what i have i can see why due to the nature of there propertys

sorry updated

I came across this whilst doing a bit of research and a few recent natural products that have become flavour of the month are listed along with a few others on this link . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_antioxidants_in_food Effects of Antioxidants on lactic acid are signifigant and usefull to birds for racing. Different antioxidants scavenge different free radicals. There are antioxidants classified as water-based and those classified as oil-based. It is important to consume both types because they target different free radicals. For example, an oil-based free radical might attack the membrane of your cell because the cell wall is made up of fat. Remember, oil and water don’t mix.So, in order to protect your cell against these types of free radicals, you need oil-based antioxidants. On the other hand, there may be a water-based free radical in your bloodstream ready to attack one of your blood cells.Only a water-based antioxidant can keep this from happening.There are also antioxidants that work directly and those that work indirectly. You need both.Direct antioxidants, such as vitamins C and E, neutralize free radicals. In this process, a direct antioxidant binds to a free radical, rendering it harmless and protecting cells from damage. Once the direct antioxidant reacts with a radical, the antioxidant is destroyed and cannot be effective again.Indirect antioxidants work as catalysts. They do not neutralize free radicals directly, but rather boost the body's own antioxidant systems. This gives them a broad range of activity, cycling over and over again, that removes many free radicals. This group of antioxidants stands ready to neutralize free radicals over a period of time. They continue to be effective even after the indirect antioxidants have left the body.

if they accept any union does that mean i can apply as a member ? and get a basket station in Scarborough

same as you and Aviform Ultimate , garlic , and plenty of fresh air

i read somewhere that birds can get vitamin d from eating there own droppings i suppose your birds werent getting enough daylight ? or was deficient in vitamin d

looking good

Wellcome to Pigeon Basics , i hope you enjoy the site

Wellcome to Pigeon Basics , i hope you enjoy the site

or back to burning lol ;D ;D ;D ;D

just make sure its not his mother in laws wooden leg hes curing ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D