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normal service , still getting bills lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

jmo just my opinion or imo in my opinion

winners come in all forms big to small most important feature of any pigeon is its feathering , without good feathering the bird is never going to make a good bird

ballance , feathering , type , fresh blood , something that will compliment what i have

maybe double rung for national racing , or an address ring or breeders ring

its the toxins in the skins thats why not too many but if loaded can get the skinned peanuts

like you say some may have tried it and not got good results straight away because havent given it the time to master it , and reverted to the natural system like any system choose one and stick to it chopping and changing wont make fer a good season

have seen grated cheese been fed with corn on continent , but never heard of mince , but b12 is given to pigeons because of the lack of meat protein in the diet , i suppose in the wild odd insect and slugs and worms would be eaten , however dont think ill be rushing to feed either

dont know if this is of any use but heres the link : http://www.downarchive.com/dl/widowhood+year+by+dave+allen.html

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=pd_rhf_s_1?ie=UTF8&search-alias=stripbooks&keywords=dave%20allen%20a%20widowhood%20year

maybe off ebay

can tame your birds with peanuts but id say no more than 2 / 3 a day i think two aday and make them take them out of your hand they go NUTS for them boom boom lol ;D ;D ;D ;D

stay clear of wild bird food peanuts they have a high rate of mould on exceeding human consumption they'll make your birds very ill , buy human grade from your local supermarket i get mine from morrisons shelled red skins

had mentioned a blind / shutter earlier

various methods on parting i like to move all hens and ybs same day some let them go down for a second round and remove eggs at 10 days if you manage to get birds all down with in a few days id leave till ybs are 17 days old and leave cock with one he prefers to feed to finish it off for next 4 days

Florizone grizzles , but be pricey i bet

usualy corner of page they hurt lol ;D ;D ;D ;D

widowhood cocks will exercise freely and naturaly keep themselves fit when you fly this system you will see but as said above the key is the cocks dont see any other pigeon whilst out other than the cocks there housed with

im sure Jack Barkel would have a better idea of the racing scene over there

safflower hearts are smaller than sunflower seeds and easier for birds to eat and im most continental mixes , you can buy sunflower thats removed from the shell as hulled sunflowerseed , the choice is yours Jos Thone uses the hulled sunflower seeds to great effect his results speak for itself http://www.thone.be/

the widowhood system starts after the moult then rearing one round of ybs before training then racing , if this can be done in that order im sure its possible when does the moult fall and the racing start are you racing whilst moulting :-/

hulled sunflower or safflower hearts ????

had a think about this , i would put it down to the style of the lofts used there more like avairys , if cocks can see hens and vice versa whilst exercising the game is over its not impossible to fly widowhood but they would have to ensure whilst excercising they shutter up hen section whilst cocks exercising and vice versa also ensure no other birds like stock or ybs are visable for them to try to get to i think some sort of shutter system would work like a plastic roller blind

no problem

thanks have quite a few in last years ybs that havent taken pictures of keep meaning to do it but not best of light in loft to do them justice