jimmy white

ideal for what you want it for [ the pigeons i mean] itll help them heat up , but when racing very little, if any, depending on the races. plant some for next years crop itll grow easy ;D ;D ;D ;D find out what the bail money is first :) your fairly getting there pecked hen , good luck to you

i still defend milton where there are crop problems

every one to there own in, 19 84 i won 13 out of a possible 17 races also winning prizes in fed and national [won supreme average in fed]most trophies in club, the club at that time had about 36 members sending over 700 birds some weeks the fed would be approx 4000 birds, the only thing the birds had that year was garlic in the water, vits on a wed.and that was it. p,s the garlic was about 15 p and the vits about 3 pounds,oh they got half milk and half water on arrival,,, but that was 1984. and that was 60 to 604 miles

control is determined with kindness training, handling and patience. :) and with control ,, youll get contentment,,,, and with contentment youll get condition,,, and its condition that wins races [3c,s ] :)

hi slatey, thats a lot cheaper than the "gullable human beans spend" ;D ;D ;D if their decent beans , youve got yourself a bargain. ;D ;D ;D

there are a lot of gullable pigeon fanciers out there and theres a lot of people glad, there is [the ones with the cash, from the gullable fanciers] i mean no disrespect to speight as i know hes just putting the post on as a point of interest :)

i for one will be taking part in the bird watch [not that theres many to see, but theres a sparrow hawk visits regular, ill try and get a photo, my brother managed it with his canaries ,photos on forum] making enemies out the rspb is not the way forward, they will only laugh at us squabling, there has to be better ways

sorry celtic had a wee bit bother with computer,but answer in all posts above i was going to try the pine needles but unfortunately, couldnt collect them, tobacco stalks are about the best, straws, dodgy, as shadow says, it can also cause aspergiliosis when foosty [scottish word i think]this year i have clean shavings in and collected bits of pine twigs, gave it a spray first, but thats just due to circumstances, the birds look comfortable enough, and most layed at about the same time doc ;D ;D ;D

theres good and bad in all colours of birds, its just that theres not of fanciers race whites, so obviously, you wont see them in the results so often. just like to say what a brilliant photo, chatrace has posted, really superb.

AGREE WITH FIFERS POST AS WE HAD THE HENS [CHICKENS] AND MY FATHER DID THIS, I HAVE DID IT WITH PIGEON EGGS , BUT KEPT TURNING THEM BUT JUST TILL ABOUT A FORTNIGHT I DONT KNOW WHAT THE EXACT TEMP, WOULD BE, AND I DONT KNOW FORHOW LONG ,BUT WOULD BE INTERESTED TO FIND OUT.[ DIDNT REALIZE THIS WAS CAPITALS] :)]

NO SNOWY YOU CAN BREED WHEN YOU WANT , ITS REALLY FOR THE OLD BIRDS GOING THE DISTANCE [ REALLY FOR PREPARATION FOR SENDING THEM THE DISTANCE OVER 500 MILES, WHEN THEY ARE TWO OR THREE YEARSOLD]

all the best bill HAPPY BIRTHDAY have a great day

ask bruno speight ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D its for disinfecting babies bottles , youll get it out the chemist ;D ;D ;D sorry bruno pal ;D ;D ;D

i would tend to agree with hyacinth,,and p.c. rather take latebreds off them after the season, burning the candle at both ends sometimes doesnt work

i think thats great, i beleive the seed of pigeons are sown when they are young, and then at sometime of their life they will keep them, even as oap,s ;)

brilliant set up, lovely photos, congrats on your results , great site

garlic , clean water every, day twice when racing, and wash water dishes with milton every day, multivits once a week

the other thing is , a bird been sitting 12 hours flies to the ground , backs up about a foot and lets go its load RIGHT IN TO THE DRINKER, DONT THINK THATS INSTINCT, THATS ,,,REVENGE ;D ;D ;D ;D

that was like the one i bred rose, a genetic bilateral mosaic, i e mailed micheal . s. and that was his answer, he calls it the siamese twin type.as i said before , imagine writting that on the race sheet ;D ;D ;D

agree with bruno and rose, lock them out until their dying to get in. then just give them very little , if any, a pea or two theyll not be long in clocking on

still a chance shell be back,, in the meantime put plenty maples and small peanuts in the box in galley pots the cock should feed , but theyll start eating at14 days, once they see the cock eating, good luck

enjoy your birds bewted and dont let the b s get you down

WHY TREAT IF THEVE NOT GOT ANYTHING WRONG WITH THEM, OK TREAT, IF THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THEM , THE ONLY WAY TO FIND OUT IF THERES SOMETHING WRONG WITH THEM IS HAVE THEIR DROPPINGS TESTED REGULARLY AND HAVE SWABS TAKEN REGULARLY ,,,,MIND YOU IF THEIR WINNING , ,JUST WIN REGULARLY IF WE TREAT WILLY NILLY, WERE LOWERING THE BIRDS RESISTENCE, AND YOULL HAVE TO KEEP TREATING, THIS HAS BEEN PROOVED WITH ANTIBIOTICS . ONLY MY OPINION WELCOME TO THE FORUM SLATEY, YOULL FIND IT GREAT

SAME AS PRODUCING PIGEON MILK , THEY KNOW, EXACTLY WHEN TO PRODUCE IT AGAIN INSTINCT,