jimmy white

when i was a wee bit fitter [i was t v aerial tech.] and got a bird out an old fanciers chimney, we could just see the bird on a small ledgeabout 12 ft down, b4 the chimney turned and bent, with a torch, we tied a cloth on to a brick on a rope, dropped it down to blank off the further drop, the bird then went on the clothed brick and we managed to get it out ,it had been there for 3 days, the fancier in question had opened up the blanked off fire place in the house, after all the mess and soot , found about a dozen rings ,dating back to 1951,,,we then fitted a cowel [this was a two story house, im sure theres two members of the forum remember this :) i really do hope you get thebird out p,h. ive even seen them struggle out themseves after a few days

its very easy to buy pigeons ,, but i would go the best flier in the area ,,and pick up their methods and,,,, put the cart b4 the horse,,,, instead of the cart in front of the horse ;D ;D ;D

i used it years ago, but when i see it now looks a bit wattered down now, used to hardly get it to pour out,, its really molasses,,,,,treackle [spelt wrong ;D] only thing that would bother me now was ,,would the birds take their full quata of watter?

came in yesterday rubber a bit frayed,, griz, gb,06 s 66117

i would say go to the best flier in your area, try and aquire some latebreds and try as much as possible to find out his ways,,,then breed from there, it may take time but it would be worth it,,only my opinion

happy birthday widowmaker have a great day

:) :)best of luck to all the entrants :)

MY GOODNESS ME WHAT CRACKING VIDEOS AND SOME BEUTY BIRDS, SOME OFTHE SOME SIZE ;D AND LOVELY COLOURS,,LIKEDTHE BLACK ONE WITH THE WHITE FRONT AND WHITE FLIGHTS , BUT REALLY LIKED THEM ALL, THEY ALL LOOK SO PROUD,,,GREAT

WORTH A THOUGHT FOR THE DOGS TOO, I COUNTED 18 WINNING THE DICKEN MEDALDURING THE WAR BUT THOUGHT IT WORTH MENTIONING AN ARTICLE FROM THE PDSA TODAY, THE DICKEN MEDAL-THE ANIMALS V,C--REMAINS THE HIGHEST HONOUR ANY ANIMAL CAN RECEIVE IN RESPECT OF ACTING CORAGIOUSLY ALONG SIDE MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES OR CIVIL DEFENCE UNITS IN AREAS OF CONFLICT OR UBDER CIRCUMSTANCES OF EXTREME DANGER, INSPIRED BY THE GALLANTRY OF THE CANINE SEARCH AND RESCUE TEAMS WORKING AT GROUND LEVEL ZERO AND THE PENTAGON, FOLLOWING THE TERRORIST ATTACKS ON NEW YORK AND WASHINGTON ON SEP 11 2001 FOR THE FIRST TIME THE PDSA DICKEN MEDAL WAS AWARDED BY BALLOT TO DOGS FROM THE NYPD, FIRE DEP.. PART AUTHORITY, INTERNATIONAL RESCUE, SUFFOLK COUNTY PD AND VOLUNTEER TEAMS, THIS VERY SPECIAL AWARD WAS MADE IN RECOGNITION OF THE UNSTINTING DEVOTION IN THE SERVICE OF MAN OF SOME 400 DOGS AND THEIR HANDLERS WHO WORKED IN UNISON TO THE POINT OF EXHAUSTION, LOOKING FOR LIFE AMIDST THE RUINS. TWO GUIDE DOGS SALTY AND ROSELLE, WERE SIMILARLY DECORATED FOR THEIR DEVOTION TO DUTY IN REMAINING WITH THEIR BLIND OWNERS AND SAFELY LEADING THEM FROM THE WORLD TRADE CENTRE TO A PLACE OF SAFETY. ALL ARE REMINDERS THAT ANIMALS AND BIRDS CONTINUE TO ACT COURAGEOUSLY IN THE SERVICE OF MANKIND

just wondering bruno the what the s o s was ,,i was looking at the s,b,s and they certaily have some very valid points,,,the s,b,s is made uf of , DISILLUSIONED EX-RSPB MEMBERS,,,,,, ,COUNTRYMEN AND WOMAN, INDEED ALLWHO ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE EVER-INCREASING PREDATION ON OUR NATIVE SONGBIRD POPULATION,,,,,,,,,,AIMS, TO LOBBY FOR A CHANGE IN THE LAW CONCERNING RAPTORS,,,,,,SPARROWHAWKS HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED IN THE LAST 30 YEARS. YEARLY MEMBERSHIP IS £15,,,WHAT SHALL WE DO WITH YOUR MONEY? LOBBY RELEVANT GOVERNMENT DEPARTURES AND INFLUENCE IDUVIDUALS ABOUT A MORE BALANCED APPROACH TO THE CONTROLING PREDATORS SUCH AS RAPTORS ETC, PIGEON FANCIERS ARE GOING NO WHERE WITH THE RSPB, BUT IF WE WERE ALL MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP WE JUST MIGHT GET SOMEWHERE,,,,, AT LEAST ITS A TRY RATHER THAN SIT BACK AND WATCH

if you look at next post racing pigeons,,,,, page 2 youll see 4 pages about latebreds,,,hope that helps you.

brilliant linda,, bill e mailed to say that there was mist at the race point but was hopefull they would go later,,,,but great result linda

back to basics w kinear and son auld reekie w kinnear and son and the 4 gold award winners owned by the great jock allen off symington [ all the greatest of distance birds]

just to add to that having mice in or around the loft can cause serious problems , so i would make real efforts to rid them

youll find a fair bit of info on the" health topic" that may help, you may have to go through the pages, but its worth a look

perfect returns linda, and you knew that was a sticky race, so good going ;D ;D ;D meally bar had the best returns,,,,,,an extra one ;D ;D ;D

i would agree with most posts but really would ask what distance your asking about as theres a lot would call a 3, 4 hundred mile race distantreally the distance races i would say anyway are 5 ,,,600 mile races, a bird is really not fully mature till its about 2 years old , ithink ben has put it down well , in such a small paragraph and explained a lot , rose has a very good point as some families are, differant, some thrive on hard work others dont basicly a good 2 year old that has not been hammered, then if its in it itll do it, and i would just take up bens point again training pigeons in march april in cold east winds will knock the stuffing out of them and probably they wouldnt last the season anyway, but with pigeons theres allways exception to the rule, but as for myself would rather go for the "rule",,,,,,,,good posts

well done to all especialy jaffray bros who had a fantastic race 1st bird doing over 60m,p,h, some speed when you see a car even doing that

happy birthday :) have a great day

well done brilliant result,

welcome back mark hope all is ok

,,,wow some result that, especially with only 10 away congrats to you whiteflight :)

wonder what the score would be if you bred budgies or canaries as their kept in, so what about the pigeons that are kept ,in but i did see it was optional, but could that just be an excuse in case it was made a "must " at some time ,it seems a lot of money

bet it would be snowy as well as being educational ill bet the kids would love to hear about the birds and the stories attached to them , would be nice to do someting like that and show them pigeons, let them handle and release them , maybe get some decent budding young fanciers,,,,,,worth thinking about :)

great stories these i find it quite fascinating,,,,just a wee article headed "winged heroes" for as long as men have waged war, pigeons have been their messegers in battle. during world war 2 more pigeons were used for more purposes than in any previous conflict. thousands of racing pigeon owners joined the national pigeon service knowing that their birds would be deployed as messengers by the allied forces, or maybe dropped by parachute, to be used by the frebch resistance. a pigeons ability and stamina may vary but they all possess a determination to "get there"and the 32 birdsthat received the pdsa dicken medal displayed this winning quality.their contribution represents the efforts of countless other pigeons whos flights saved the lives of many people and assured the success of vital military operations, the first pigeon to receive the p.d.s.a. dicken medal was off course the now world wide famous winkie and off course many of these pigeons are all mentioned in all the posts in this topic, great true stories to every one of them, j.w.