Whats it called Cumbernauld

Heres one for those of a certain age enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J3gX47rHGg

Used this system many moons ago,found it good got one you get most,also helps get them ready for longer races which they were paired up for,had many a good season on it.

STB-Lifes great when you 13 points clear

Well put mate,this is of great importance and a lot of fanciers do not give enough thought to this.Lot of good Articals on this site on the subject. What do you think of our Charlie Phil Rab

Your loooking for about a 4 inch Gap at the back wall and the roof. Then put your vents along the front of your loft. Fresh Air is free use it as much as you can.

Her is our Charlie Cheers Rab

All the best to you Duncan, sticks and stones may break your bones, but names you should never let hurt you Duncan. Re-consider Mate lot of good honest fanciers oon here mate. All the best whaterver you do. Rab Smith

Run a small book with odds produced each week say from 10/1 down to 2/1 Fav couple pounds limit and you will be surprised how much this makes the Club over a season. We also use to run a league just as in football flying against each other over old and young birds £1 a week 50% to champions and 50% to club.Indeed many felt this was the best indicator of who had the best season as it was over the whole season.

DoveScot what u like,still into the mince pies Duncan how you doing mate.

Cheers look forward to competing against you next year, as i will be flying in Kilsyth, with the Glasgow fed. However unlike Homer i will focus on my pigeons, and not on the oppesition. 8)

stb- I never said it would be easy, as for me i am far from the top, but had my turn. My post was about encouragemant for this fancier who worries for nothing. He would do well to enjoy his pigeons, and not worry about great names of someone who once won two races in a row.

Best to think on your plans and don't worry about opposition. Try and read and find out as much as you can. Some fanciers will get a good early bird because of what they done in preperation.However some will get a good eairly pigeon in spite of what they may have done. So don't worry, you will get your turn it may just take sometime thats all. As for these great Fanciers they should tell you, it is much easier to get to the top, than it is to stay there. Good luck

Just lost one at tea time tonight Deed Every other week now getting bad

Wish i could say its better than watching the Clyde

All the best to those in Wales

Casualty over crowed enough problems without biggotory

Thanks for your help on this wiil go to links

When the young birds are on limited light do they get out at all,or does all the training get done when they come of darkness in mid June. Would appreciate some guidance guys and girls. Cheers Rab

Had a visit from a hawk just this afternoon,6 not back at 4pm however have had 2 back, with 2 two come. Birds scattered in all directions

Thinking they will need to spend more than 65,000 a week to beat killmarnock,the tic could use another keeper as well if that got past me at five a side on a monday night would not be asked back, and thats a fact.

Thanks this sums up my problem, need lots of air and dont want to lose this at the expence of darkness.However the fact that it does not need to be pitch dark helps.At how long or at what age would you start this and how long to yiou keep thenm on it. Cheers

Thanks for this guys.Looking for something to cut light but let air in.How many hours on dark and how many on light is it 16 dark and 8 hours light? Cheers Rab

Constructing yb loft for this year racing. Keen to try the darkness system.Any one know best stuff to use to let air in but keep light out.I have put a fales floor on so air comes up from floor.have left a space at bottom front ant top of the back.However could do with something to cover these areas with.Was thinking of the black material that is put on the ground before laying chips.Anyone know if this would work. Any help on darkness would be much appreciated not got a clue but keen to try. Cheers Rab Smith

All the best Enjoy your Pigeons and this site

Some our birds up here in sunny Cumbernauld.bit of amature with all this so bear with me