newdoo,have no idea who is feeding you incorrect information "they left after the third old bird race fact not fiction" complete tosh!!! i know my stats,you most clearly do not,the members of KIRKINTILLOCH RPC put a lot of effort and work into glasgow fed including mr hay, afraid in the pigeon game you are "damned if you do and damned if you dont" joining a pigeon forum just to have a go at a certain individual is very much poor form. ;) ps if you want to pm me i can furnish you with all the CORRECT data!!!