Well at least you dont deny it Brian.By the way, Ill say it again, I dont blame you boys, its the judges that cant spot the dipped doos ,thats mainly the problem. The guys with the dipped doos always turn their birds out really well and obviously put alot of work in to get them right. Its only the big shows ( for prestige )that these dipped birds appear as the local shows are usually out and out racers. We will see how the Fauldhouse and Lawhill shows go and how the judges fair, lol. Might be a crowd of us going up to Lawhill for the crack.