Michael J Burden

Do you think all those fanciers pictured in the pigeon papers have paid money for theirs= ans no They are all sponsored, hope they ask me, doubt it though.

Depends if they gona sponsor me as to which one is the best. I have Bricon at the moment/ :-/

A distance bird is one which does it well on a no wind day or more importantly a head wind. Most birds can do it on a tail wind.

The Billy Jamesisons had the Fox pigeons too.

I agree with you on this. I think they lost their way a long time ago.

CG's birds are based around the Fox's blood.

cock one, 135th etc

red cock 2

I have two red cocks bred by David off birds he purchased from me. Both red cocks are late breds in 2006 but flew Tarbes 674 miles 2007 with nest flights. The 1st one was 135th open NFC.

I have two red cocks bred by David off birds he purchased from me. Both red cocks are late breds in 2006 but flew Tarbes 674 miles 2007 with nest flights. The 1st one was 135th open NFC.

Yes mate if you bred it it is your selection etc. If he bred it from birds he had off you and had tried and tested them throughout then it is not beyond belief he calls them his strain. I also believe that you as the founder breeder should get some crdit too.

pair of electric snips some round nose pliers. A few minutes later gone. Done it many times with double rung ybs at the end of tb season.

they are not all fanciers some are kids.

mine are predominantly Fox blood too.

mine are predominantly Fox blood too.

try ringing john stretton at Burton on Trent. Has the best and they win too.

Anyone claim to have their own family of birds or do you just race someone elses named birds?

karl, look at some oen who is doing well at what ever distance you are looking to race at. Get their number have some rum and ring them up. Make a little list of some questions you would like to ask. That way you get over the nerves of cold calling. If they sound like nice reliable people ask if you can have a look at their birds. Make a visit and don't be too pushy about buying but ask if they sell when and how much? It may not be possible to get to someone in your local club area. They are trying to beat you so think outside the box. I often drive an hour to see my buddies and some I have yet to meet, only ever spoken on the phone, Amtracked them to me, the birds etc.

I am still waiting for mine to arrive sent him in his first race in 1988, he'll be here soon.

Green ande blue eggs are common in chickens. When boiled they loose the colour. Did yoy know that brown eggs splatter is blood.

great toss

You have answered your own question without realising it Roland, The distance family as you call it don't exist where you know the eggs are good. Not many 'ACE' birds are born which ever distance birds you have. The trick is to find one the only way is to breed as many as you can handle and start looking for them. The basket is the way to find them.

Merlin, they sound hard places for Norh roaders but I think warm head winds against wet cold NE winds are the most difficult for a pigeon. SW winds usually mean good weather.

Roland I don't agree with you on most points. There are good distance birds out there, in fact every where at the moment. The trick is to reconize one and aquire it and send the ybs to those races you dream to do well at. At one of Brian Longs sales this year the birds were given away! I got a grandson of the Red Barcelona for 50 quid and a Stoffle hen for 50 quid too. I am breeding from them and there will be no excuses for the ybs. At one year old they have at least to fly 400 miles race in a national event, then a 560 miles race or a 674 miles race. At Blackpool I got a yearling cock of Mike Youngs breed for 25 quid. My friend has a grizzle hen he uses as a feeder, I did some enquiries and found out it was bred by Jim Emerton, and is his family crossed with Jim Donaldsons Remis girl lines. She is now at my loft and cost me nothing. Their ybs too will get the same treatment as above. So to conclude apart from my own distance birds I have two pairs for a total of 125 quid. All it needs is the racing man to do his part. The NFC or BICC are already in place to fulfil your racing question.

They got to have some racing, the stress of a mass liberation will sort them out more than a private toss from most reasonable distances.