JSTOON
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Halleluah, finally spoken to someone who knows what they are doing at the RSPCA. All the dead rabbits had died from starvation, results in from pm this morning, and the remainder that we alive were all malnurished. The rspca will be prosecuting the culprit, whom seems to have dissapeared. Another 5 birds today have also been returned to there owner, unfortunately minus there rings Were getting there ;D ;D
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I used to know a very lovely chap, the late Bob Arnold, from Datchet Slough, who sadly passed away last year. He served for country and queen in the war and was responsible for feeding the birds in the war, and whilst doing so made good friends with i believe Maurice Delbar, it was definately one of the Delbar family, whom also had the responsibility of feeding and looking after the birds. A great friendship was struck up, and both prepared the birds for rigerous journeys, which saw them later in life, racing pigeons and both becoming great long distance champions in their own right. It was Bob who first brough the Delbar family of birds into this country some many years ago, as both survived the horrors of war, and became very good friends.
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She hasnt got a sister has she ;D ;D
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Ive actually spoken to the RSPCA, they took all the remaining rabbits and the several what were dead, to do a post mortem to see if they died of starvation. As for why the birds were left, i was not given an answer, and i doubt the person that i was talking to had the answers to very little ;D ;D ;D.
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A total of 17 birds have now been returned to there owners. 36 birds without rings have been fed and watered for 4 days and have been liberated over the weekend, should anybody get any stolen birds returned without the rings in the Yorkshire area, thanks.
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I dont have your mug shot Lunar tat, but im always watching you ;D ;D ;D
Thanks for the comments, im going to put the same report in the BHW for everybody to see. The sad thing which i didnt mention was the state of the birds, no food or water for at least 5 days, they literally attacked me when i brought a bucket of water in. Heres another point of advice i forgot to mention. The birds were in such a bad state that i called the RSPCA, as there was also dead rabbits in the rabbits pen(also starved), along with dead pigeons. Me being the caring one, fed all the pigeons with some corn we borrowed from a neighbouring fancier,. I have just found out that after we left the birds with the clubs officials, having contacted the RSPCA, god bless them. Upon there attendance they would not act as the birds and rabbits, had now been fed :'( :'(.
WHAT you may ask, me too, which i will be chasing up tommorrow with some hopefully superior, who hasnt the mind set of a Bufoon.
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Can i just give a little advice to all members if they are ever the subject of a break in to there sheds/ huts.
Over the past 4 months the allotments in and around our area in Pontefract have been the subject of constant over night attacks, whereupon a large amount of birds/ corn/ bowls and everything youd need to start up in pigeon racing had been stolen. Unfortunately none of the break ins were reported to the Police, as the fanciers didnt think that anything could be done. Fortunatley with me being a Police officer i was lucky to over hear a conversation between two criminals and after a bit of digging, we carried out a raid and recovered almost all of the stolen birds and property, a rareity i know. Heres where the advice comes in.
No matter how big or small the break in, please report the matter to the Police, and give a full and comprehensive list of all stolen items and birds, with ring numbers if possible. More and more do we carry out raids of said drug dealers, and recover pigeon equipement and birds, and if its not been reported as stolen we have no way of ever finding its owners or tracing them. We have now in system a catalogue which list all stolen items of property and owners and only takes a small amount of time to run checks. Also, purchase one of the many indelable pens, and right your post code on your baskets and panniers etc, as all propery is now checked with ultra vilolet lights, which will show this up.
One would always hope that this would never happen to us, but it seems to be happening more and more, and if we put things in place before hand, at least weve half a chance of getting our stuff back. Imagine my mates face when i returned his best cock, 5x 1sts and only two years old, and thank god, he still had his ring.
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I will donate a piar of youngsters to be auctioned seperately, as one is from my best distance birds, and the other my best sprint birds.
Lot 1 , hatching in about 9 days. Sire purchased from Jacob Poortvliet (the new dutch sensation), Blue c, full brother to Thunderbird 1, his ace pigeon. !st 14,795, 4th npo 13,845 etc etc. Koopman Van loon x Jansen. Dam Bertus timmer Jan Arden, all the best lines of Dolle, 777, Vlekje, all ready bred 3 to score at channel, limited chances due to restrictions on flying. The best distance lines there is, the three i already have shifted off them are fantastic.
Lot 2 Due to be laid this week, Sire Cheq cock, very best lines of Curtis, Lunt and Green Jansen always stock. this cock has now bred in two years 4 winners of which two have been multiple winners.He is bred from a son of Frankie, when piared to De 60 hen, and the dam to this cock is a direct from Bondfire 3x 1sts fed & club, when paired to very best Eijerkamps James Bond lines.
The dam is a hen bird purchased from Tumley lofts, again Jansen, and now breeder of 4 birds in two years, all won, and one on 4 occasions. This hens dam in no other than the 10 hen, when paired to Domino, both the cream and best stock birds of Tumley lofts. Both 10 hen and Domino can be viewed on the Tumley lofts web site. These birds are the cream of our stock, and will not let anyone down, good luck to the bidders, whom ever buys these birds can either have there own rings on or mine, Simon
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i spoke to Jacob Portvielt before his sale at Blackpool, and thieves struck just prior to the show and stole some 70 birds, all of which were intended for the show, just shows that when fame and fortune comes your way so doea the unwanted guests!!!!
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Well its here at last. the birds will be on sale in the BHW this friday, for us who get the BHW early, thursady. Barneys giving up his friday nights dart outing up with us, so get in early. If you dont buy the BHW and want some excellent birds cheap, Barney can be contacted on 01977 510156 as from tommorrow please. Good luck to all who gets in early, Simon
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If anyone is interested there are still three of the cocks remaining, Ive spoken to Steve and hes open to offers, as the birds have to go. If you missed out at Blackpool, heres your chance to get proven winning breeding stock.
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Both lots two and three are now sold thankyou
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I must be lucky, i got a Blakes loft and its superb, and it hasnt rained in yet, bein up about a year and a half now.
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Can you get me one please Richard, ill see you saturday morning, as its a flying visit. :'( :'(
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I FIRST GOT MT OWN BIRDS IN 1983, I WAS 9 AT THE TIME. IT WAS A PURE WHITE COCK, WHOM WAS SOON TO BE JOINED BY STUMPY, A ONE LEGGED COCK THAT MY DAD CAUGHT FOR ME WHILST WE WAS AT BLACKPOOL OFF THE PROM. HE DIDNT STAY VERY LONG THOUGH, MUSTNT HAVE LIKED THE YORKSHIRE CLIMATE.
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sINCE 2003 I HAVE FLOWN THE DARKNESS WITH YBS, AND HAVE TRAINED THEM WHEN RACING TWICE A DAY MON-THURS, NO MORE THAN 18 MILES UPTO 120 MILE RACE, THEN AFTER THAT THE YB GO ONCE A DAY 40 MILES- 50 MILES, MON-THUR DEPENDING ON WINDS AND WEATHER. SINCE DOING THIS I HAVE BROKEN NEARLY EVERY CLUB RECORD WITH YBIRDS BEFORE, THREE TIMES LAST YEAR TAKING 1-6 POSITIONS IN CLUB. THE OLDER BIRDS DONT NEED AS MUCH TRAINING IN MY OPINION, AND WILL QUITE EASILY FLY AROUND HOME, AND DOES IT AFFECT THEM FROM THE YEAR PREVIOUS, WELL I WOULD SAY NOT. I HAVE TOPPED THE FED THIS YEAR WITH A YEARLING, AND WON 7 OTHER RACES WITH YEARLINGS ALL BEEN IN THE TOP5 OF THE FEDERATION, AND WON THE OLD BIRD INLAND AVERAGE 13 TIMES OUT OF THE LAST 15 YEARS. FOR ME AS PIGEONS GET OLDER, LIKE US TOO, THEY SLOW DOWN, THERE IS ALWAYS AN EXCEPTIONAL BIRD THAT WILL WIN UPTO 5-6 YEARS ON SPRINT, BUT THEY ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. I GOT THSI SYSTEM LIKE I SAY FOUR YEARS AGO, AND NEVER LOOKED BACK.
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LOT 3 HAS NOW BEEN SOLD THANKYOU, SIMON
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Where abouts are you mate, we get loads in pontefract and its £4-50 a bag, screened and spotless. Ive always fed barley in the off season, you should see the difference it makes with the feathering.
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Thanks homebird, im sure he will. Ive got four birds from Barney myself over the years, they are top deraw, which i couldnt afford to buy thats for sure. ;D ;D
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AS REQUESTED, THERE IS MIXTURE OF BOTH COCKS AND HENS., THE BIRDS ARE ALL FROM DIRECT SONS/ DAUGHTERS OF JUST A KID, DOCHERTY COCK, SILVER AND GOLD AND THE VERY BEST LINES OF DE KLAK, SIMON
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SORRY, DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THRED WHILST UPDATING, HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE COMPUTER, MODERN TECHNOLOGY ;D ;D
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LOT 5 BLUE COCK 02C SOOTJEN BASED, BOUGHT FROM DEREK WRIGHT, ORIGINATES FROM NIGEL LAYCOCK.
THIS COCK WON RACING PRIOR TO BEING PUT TO STOCK-
3RD CLUB KETTERING, 3RD CLUB WANSTED FLATS, 5TH CLUB BOVINGDON, 4TH CLUB LEICESTER, 5TH CLUB BOVINGDON, 1ST CLUB, 1ST FED EASTBOURNE. (CENTRALL MARKED FED RACE). AGAIN THIS COCK HAS GONE ON AND BRED NUMEROUS WINNERS NOT JUST FOR STEVE BUT OTHERS TOO. TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT HIM, HES CLASS TOO £75-00 ONO.
SHOULD YOU WANT ANY DETAILS OR WISH TO SPEAK TO STEVE HE CAN BE CONTACTED ON 07802731287, OR SIMPLY PM AND I WILL ACT AS GO BETWEEN. STEVE HAS TOLD ME THAT HE IS GOING TO BLACKPOOL, SO YOU COULD COLLECT THEM FROM HIM THERE. BE QUICK, I KNOW THEY WILL GO. SIMON
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LOT 4 BLUE F C 03L SVRX DESMET MATTHYS, PURCHASED FROM V &L THOMPSON.
THIS COCK NEVER ACTUALLY WON, BUT CAME WITH LOFT MATES WHEN TAKING 1ST THREE POSITION, FIRST TWO POSITIONS AND ALSO HAD ANOTHER SECOND POSITION. THERE IS A PEDIGREE WITH THE BIRD THAT STEVE HIS TRYING TO FIND WHILST SORTING OUT ALL THE PAPERWORK. AGAIN WHEN BRED FROM THIS COVK BECAME A GOLDMINE, AND BRED WINNERS FOR FUN. V & L THOPSON ACQUIRED SOME OF THE BEST SVR AROUND, AND WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR BREEDING 3X RPRA AWARD WINNER VICTOR, WHOM I HAD TO FLY AGAINST. :'( :'(
NO MONEY WAS EVER SPARED WHEN OBTAINING THE BEST AROUND, A BARGAIN £75-00 ONO.
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LOT 3 CHEQ C 00Z, BUSSCHART PURCHASED FROM M/M SUTTON GOOLE, FULL PEDIGREE. THIS BIRD WAS BOUGHT FOR STOCK, PRIOR WON ON THE ROAD FOR M/M SUTTON 1ST CLUB 2ND FED, 3RD CLUB BEFORE BEING PUT TO STOCK. STEVE TOLD ME THAT HE HAS A HUT FULL OFF THIS COCK NOW, AND HAS LOST COUNT OF THE BIRDS IT HAS BRED TO EITHER WIN OR SCORE. (SEEN THE CHILDREN, FANTASTIC).HE TOO IS G SIRE TO EQUAL 2ND RPRA ONE LOFT RACE, AND 43RD LAST RPRA ONE LOFT RACE, WINNING IN EXCESS OF £1000. TELL ME WHERE YOU CAN GET SUCH GOOD PIGEONS BREEDING WINNERS AT THIS PRICE, IF THERE IS SOMEWHERE IVE NEVER HEARD OF IT. BARGAIN £75-00 ONO.
500 miles and again or?
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My best advice is to wait and see how the 1st race goes, and watch the recovery of the birds.If the 1st race is a tough nose ender, then id think strongly about sending them back, they might look good on the outside, but its whats inside that counts. I had a very good hen which won the 500 mles race three years on the spin, and she was never sent to the bergerac race which was consistantly 3 weeks after. And be mindfull when sending yearlings, yes theyll come, ive known them win, but sometimes you can destroy them at a young age. Pigeons are very similar to horse races in the way they are trained and raced, you dont see many young horses entered for the Grand National now, think that says it all. Good luck though if you do