JSTOON
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Thanks IB, i will check with Defra today. If this is the case, then yet again we are held to ransom, and it looks like the stock birds will at least be vaccinated for the next few years 16p per jab cheaper. I will update the post when ive made contact with Defra, heres hoping :-/ :-/ :-/
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Yes it does say 100 doses, thats what i thought. What it actually means is 2 x 100 doses, thats what keeps coming anyway ;D ;D
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Some of the good winning blacks at the moment are the blacks of Peter Van de Merwe lines, which originate back to the old tournier lines, which were fantastic distance pigeons. With the crosses Peter made with the De Klacks, Van Loon (which i have seen many of blacks from the late Mell Bell), they are still present now and winning big races. This breed/ strain of pigeons in my opinion have yet to take off in this country, and when they do they will de devastating as proved thus far in Holland. I read a good old article a while back, which showed how the Jan Arden strain were brought about. Dr Bricoux, who was responsible for breeding and retaining pigeons in the Second world war, and was responsible for some of the greatest fetes done by pigeons which served in the war.
Some of the original Bricouxs were also black, and when the war was over the birds were retained by Dr Bricoux, which later were to become some of the greatest distance flying birds. These birds were the start of the Jan Arden strain which came in later years.
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Unable to get the link onto my screen, im no computer buff, the site is www.pigeonracingmeds.com, a lot of the products they sell are all cheaper than what we have to pay over here.
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I dont know if members have been struggling along with myself in obtaining the Colombavac vaccine, but it would appear that the vaccine is not been sent into the country until the new year, due to a fault on the top/ sealing of bottles. Id rather not use the Nobivac vaccine, i have when injecting peoples birds in the past, experienced difficulties with the vaccine solidifying. Having done some research, i have found a substitute vaccine Chevivac p200, which can be ordered online from Pigeonracingmeds. I recently ordered some for myself and members of our club, which was delivered some 9 days later, and now all the birds have been vaccinated, and i can say the vaccine was spot on. Heres the great thing, the vaccine was £24-61 for 200 doses, thats a saving compared with Colombavac vaccine for the same amount of £32-00, food for thought. ;D ;D
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Mickey, the best whites are those that are clipped down and used for droppers. I had the same last year when at a sale, and my little girl got her grandad to buy her a white, this was a willy thas. Needless to say two long months dragged by in the summer when "ALICE", her name sake never returned from a ten mile chuck!!
Now she has two alices, they are the first back every saturday, and trap like hawks, yes, there the fantail type that are cut down. The heartache of wandering "WHERES ALICE GONE", has slowlyy been forgotten, and wont be repeated. ;D ;D ;D
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Brian Clayburn 01977 612167, Simon
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The birds that we race for the sprint, which have won everything before them, including sprint land average 12 out of 13 years, are a mixture of staf van reet (Mardon via Steve Parry barnsley), direct de klaks and Jansens. I also brought in a Walter zootjan pair, which i have to say are the fastest birds i have ever had, one hen 06 bird has now topped the fed three times and has over 15 firsts. These breeds crossed have won upto 335 miles for me this year, with the De Klak doing the busimess at 400/ 500 miles. Must agree with T Sykes though, got to have the right system in place to compete at the sprint, and feeding is everything.
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Some of Piets pigeons were brought over with Peters to the Blackpool show and were sold in the auction a night with the stars. A lovely stamp of pigeon that went for a small fortune, with a lot of the birds related to the Peter Vander Merwe strain.
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Bucketed down all day here in Sunny Yorkshire, pur federation, Normanton fed are basketing sunday night for monday race at Eastbourne.
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Blue skies, with broken cloud. Pontefract West Yorks
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EEh Mr Erriot,
Reet glad thee's finally got yir hand out that cows b*ckside. Is vet'inary better payed than't chemist?
Please excuse Yorkshirese.
On a more serious note, how often do you treat your birds with this? I don't think I've treated my birds for canker this century. I'm not saying I have never treated for it. I have been using cider vinegar for the last few years, didn't realise it had that effect.
OCH EYE THE NOOR JIMMY MY LAD, my scottish isnt very cracking either.
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First young bird race this year, wednesday before youingbirds fit and well, tested by vet and found to have a perfect bill of health. Went to the first race that saturday, the first time that my birds have mixed with others, as im not a transporter trainer, i do it myself. Prior to going, cracking droppins, and a picture of health. A perticular hard race for the first yb race, again witgh many casualties missing, 29/31 returned for me. droppings and condition following day was shocking, tested on the monday only to find that the birds had picked a viral infection up, i was 5th, 6th at the first race. The birds were traeted and were tested again thursday to see if the infection had cleared, which it had. That weekend again some birds lost, 34/35 home, winning club and topping fed. at the club on the friday, i personally turned birds back which werent in a good state of health. This is the problem that we are face with now, birds being put into baskets taht arnt right, which are then contaminating other fit and healthy birds. When i told the members saturday night, some said my droppings have bein bad for the last month, then why send, what are they achieving, cos there not winning a carrot, and are loosing birds hand over fist. The birds are treat for canker ona three week cycle, which finishes when the birds are stopped racing, which is only 14 weeks out of a 52 week peroid, so in effect, there probably treat 4/5 times a year at the most, dont see taht as over doing them, and with 32 1st this year to date, long may it continue.
Got to go, emergency calls, one of my mates has something stuck up a ewe lol
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Canker treatments, rodizanol (treatment usually in water drinker), flagyl ( again in drinker, orally or on corn), emtryll ( in drinker), Trico plus ( drinker), main four products used with racing pigeons and poultry. I have heard that 1 cap of cider finger per week in drinker also keeps canker levels low. james Herriot Esq ( PORTABLE VET)
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Some lovely birds bud, what breeds the cheqf, bottom corner.
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Got my answer mate, once every three weeks
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Hi Bart, i use flagly liquid, we buy a bottle of 100ml for £15-00, and treat orally, two drops down throat, or on the pigeon corn. Ive done this for years, and never had a problem with canker, and they do win well. The only thing to be mind full of, is that treating with the same product all the time, can build up a resistance in the bird, and eventually it has no effect. Feeding barley througout the winter also keeps the canker levels low i was told, so have done this myself throughout the winter, and touch wood not a problem. It also keeps the birds with a balanced diet, and assissts when the hens are being paired and are getting ready to lay.
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first of all im not saying that im a portble chemist, just giving honest advice on when id had problems, which are the same symptons, trying to help the lad. I use a vet myself, tested every two weeks, and where was at that i said to send the birds ??) ??) ??) ??).
Again im not telling this lad to treat blind, but in my experience ( twenty two years racing, highest prize winner 12 out of last 15 years ;D ;D ;D ;D), it sounds as though theyve a touch of respiratory.
Are you telling me you dont treat for such???????
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Hi mate, i have seen this before, and can tell you the reason, or what it was in my case. Pm me, or call me 07747112740, 01977 704834, im not having a go at what people have said already, but i certainly wouldnt be racing them, its like having a massive toothache, and i learned the hard way many years ago, i nearly lost the lot, Simon
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Im not a vet or anything, but have a good friend who is, and examines my birds every two/ three weeks. In both these cases, which ive had symptons myself in the past, both are carrying a touch of respiratory, especially the mucky wattled ones. It wont affect th droppings, but will affect teh performance of the birds. I had similar problems two years ago, and now treat ona cycle to prevent happening again. If either of you can get a product called naseline, then put on drop down each nostrill of all birds, and treat the birds with either doxycyclin, poladoxin, or linco spectin, i guarentee this problem will stop. Usually when they are sneezing it means that the tracks are blocked/ and/or have mucus inside of them, the sneezing is trying to get it out. I havnt looked back since doing this and would recommend that birds are treated at least once a month for such, Simon
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Paul, can you confirm when you say £40-00 each, is that per bird or pair, a lad who isnt on the site may be interested, cheers mate Simon
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Couldnt have put it better, when im getting the channel team ready, and its a string west wind (which we all know it usually is), ill take my birds to Hull, East of my lofts, flying into Pontefract. Bang head wind, and ive never lost one yet. And i dont do too bad at the cahnnel, though ive never tried it with the sprint team :X :X
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Our fed, Normanton fed went early saturday, 08-30 hours from Peterborough, with excellent returns, likewise central yorkshire fed. I have heard that the Barnsley fed had bad returns, liberating at Buckingham in the afternoon, likewise the Doncaster fed, who also went in the afternoon, again with bad returns. My friend whos a very good flyer was gutted saturday night, 29 out of 60 home, all of which have had at least 60 chucks. Our fed is in transportaion with three other feds, two of which could not be liberated from the same race point due to the weather closing in. I heard that a lot of feds held due to this, and once the skies cleared again, which was just after 1pm, most began to liberate, which could answer why so many pigeons were missing, as a great deal of birds were airborne at the same time.
This may be your answer as to the bad returns, hope theyve returned mate
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Well Done again Mickey, a very good start for your first year, heres hoping for that red card eh, Good Luck Simon. Hopefully we can have a pint or two in Blackpool this time, im over for the weekend, Simon
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Micky, the youngster 665 was infact nest mate to the blue hen that was your first bird, good luck mate and keep up the good work, Simon
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Well ive not actually managed to get an answer from Defra as yet, but i have spoken to a vet regarding the matter, who was now under the impression that aslong as its a registered vaccine ie it has a batch number and validaty date then that was accepted. Ive checked the vaccine and all have a batch number with the bottles. The rpra rules regarding vaccination only stipulates that they must be vaccinated against Paramyxo which again is governed by our beloved Defra. I will update when i have confirmation, simon