joe61

golden nectar mate... have one for me...or 2 or 3 or 4 .. ohhappy days 8)

all quality i would say. oh happy days

BWF . you do as you will. i no axe to grind, you have a nice day too. oh happy days

As I see it bwf, chris had been totally honest with me in his reply which is a credit to him and i replyed what he asked. so whats your problem mate ? have you bought any pigeons from chris , how they done? i am interested thats all. he visited my sons home twice and is very welcome to do so again or my home, i think bwf you have the problem, does nobody have a right to ask other questions. oh happy days

Myself and valance get on ok actually... just i cant get chris's website up and wanted to know something.. day is great i will thanks o happy days

the pied at the front is looking to find out what your holding, as you pointing the camera, the pigeon is curious to what he has in his hands..... the others just sit there, the difference is its looking but the otheres just see.. ohd

Lol. dont know what you mean BWF...... oh happy days agaginokomno

i like the white splashed at the front next to the black wf, black wf you will lose, take a look at the pic carefully it speaks a story. oh happy days

Of course you may ask, pleasure to give them to you V, last season Paulo Nunes won 1st prizes with 4994 birds competing, 6th prize with 4996 birds competing also other results and with our bloodlines which creditted paulo to become 1st middle distance Champion YB of all LIsbon, 6th overall Champion lisbon, this from only 2 breeders obtained from us. also a certain fancier on this site had 1 pair from us and bred 5th club with 500 birds, from one bird bred and the pigeon was stopped to be raced this season. other youngsters last year bred by us were put into peoples stock lofts so this year should be a good one, fanciers also destined for birds this year also , fanciers such as Mr & mrs Hitchcock and sons, Double Cottage lofts, Leighton Milthorpe, Albert Babington, Paul Stokes, Paulo Nunes, Tony Bates plus a gentleman from Ireland who shall be visiting us next month, we do not sell alot of pigeons we are not commercial in anyway. our liasons with other gentlemen remain confidential to their wishes. oh happy days producing championship winners in far off distant places.

do you include yourself in that valance, as i know you breed mate , like nyself but not raced yet, i thought you were ok kinda guy lol, only kidding, just a question mate , when did you last race and what results canme. just curious.. oh happy days

why so nasty, didnt hear you being nasty when you were eating his products and this has been about alot longer than your aware mate, so you should not cast aspertions and be so damn nasty, the guy has to deal with it the best he can. why are so many so bitter. thats whats wrong with the world oh happy days have a drummer.. ??)

sod peoples jobs and health...... just as long as this guy can race his pigeons.... what a guy.

no need to buy raymond moldveld or frans swols birds then stu if people want the best ! off to see koopman.. oh happy days

I agree gangster, And people should be able to tell the pigeons potential as soon as its weaned, if not reared right, cull it. then as it matures the potential is in the look of the pigeon. A pigeon should be selected on a number of variable traits, quality of the bird first, then bloodline and type prefered, then performance, if you know your pigeons you should know what ones are gonna be around come racing, too many people have lots of pigeons all different shapes and sizes which is lack of breeding knowledge with livestock, lets be honest most fanciers simply are not hard enough with their pigeons and i mean selecting not racing, select before you race, cull the rubbish , you will have fewer loses. fanciers breed 50 or 100 youngsters a year... how many are top grade ? 2 or 3 ... most lofts have just pigeons in them. if your not winning get ride of the lot. its about being first dont kid yourself, you win your happy, your last your weekend is not so good !! how many fanciers can see a pigeons potential ? not many thats why they let the basket decide.. pick birds out tobreed winners before raced and be pre potent breeders at that.. and i not saying dont race your birds before you decide to jump on me, what i am saying is that 75% of fanciers dont know enough about breeding quality birds and selecting them. we give our pigeons whatever time they need, let me explain, we select the best bloodline and mate each individual to a certain relationship one to the other, which gives us top birds in nearly every youngster, but different temperaments and characters so motivation is a whole different issue for racing them. we have selected top birds and kept them on the loft for 5-6 years without breeding from them, then breed 2 winners in first nest from them at 5-6 years old !!! thats what i mean by seeing breeding capacity in a bird !! for racing they should win by 2 years old. Our best hen as we only race hens, was never raced as a youngster, we dont race youngsters, then had 3 races as yearling to educate her, then as a 2 year old hen beat every widow cock in the area by a distance, nothing could touch her! this is again spotting racing capacity within a bird which has been bred from 2 birds with breeding capacity.. so keep less birds and breed less ,but all quality will usually result if you got good bloodline, and you have a breeding plan, not just cross and hope for the best, breed what you want by your own selection and type. you are the reason wether you win or lose . if the birds dont win , ask yourself .. who put them in the loft ? YOU DID. oh happy days

who you looking for ?

anto dont upset batman theres a good chap oh happy days

people will have their traps half way down the garden front garden that is oh happy days

like your avatar mick your first after me oh happy days

I suspect nothing wrong with the birds, hows that for a diagnosis. your panicing i think over nothing, ask yourself some questions, how many birds in loft? is the grain or feed getting damp or soiled somehow? have you given them salt? what about grit? are minerals in loft getting damp? are you rationing them? what time of day do you feed them? have you given them peanuts or any other seed or feed ? what you putting in the water? call my son on 07989 746150 he will get it straight for you. other than that, plain feed and water as much as they want and keep them locked in loft for 3 days all will then be fine. oh happy days

you would not get any horsemen in that might get one shetland pony cut in half oh happy days

monkeynuys put some batten across the back and screwyour boxes to it nothing gets under them and it gives you more floor space oh happy days

people go on about losing birds they are not lost even they have had enough of this country its a s**t hole oh happy days {i dont think so}

wind direction depends if im lying on my left or right side oh happy days

we give ours versa laga energy plus and plain water. but calcium supplement once a fortnight. why do people give their birds tablets when weaned? you have raised them from nothing and they should know you the loft and the sounds around the loft, if your pigeons go backward or get stresed that easy they should be culled as they are not strong in body or mind.. oh happy days