just ask me

well done all

just something i was reading thought it might be of interest http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-04/f-sf-npd041811.php

i like the cock in the pic cracker

releasing off high grounds help a little if you release off low ground or in a valley well they will have a party i find a spot where they are free from falcons a few trips before hand sorts that out and i tend not to move from there on race day well im prepared to take my chances

his new methods are good but ask him what he thinks of his older stuff

well done keep them on there toes

utd are useless without Rooney

anyone got a link

not good news hope all works out well

probably wont watch only like watching the best and these both are a long way off being world class

best of luck mate id wait till Sunday at least

on the subject of ivermectin pour on i could of posted lots of personal reports of people using it even directly on there birds there 100s out there but i found this document by the fda anyone works in the pharmaceutical industry will know this crowd lol everything has to go though them in short it says the substance is of danger to a number of species but of low toxicity to birds im sure in there report they would have mentioned bop falcons etc i hope this helps to clear up this subject also Environmental assessment of avermectins by the US food and drug administration Purchase $ 31.50 Raanan A. Bloom, a and John C. Matheson IIIa aDivision of Toxicology and Environmental Sciences, Center for Veterinary Medicine, Food and Drug Administration, Washington, DC, USA Available online 13 November 2002. Abstract The Center of Veterinary Medicine (CVM) of the Food and Drug Administratio n (FDA) is required under the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) to include in its decision making, an objective consideration of the potential environmental impacts associated with each contemplated action. As part of the application process for new animal drugs, detailed data must be submitted in order to develop a prediction of the environmental fate and effects of the drug and/or its active metabolites. Ivermectin (22,23-dihydroavermectin B1) is a highly active antiparasitic animal drug utilized in a variety of injectable, oral and topical formulations. Residues of this drug may reach the environment through manufacturing and animal wastes and may potentially have effects of terrestrial and aquatic organism. A comprehensive data base has been submitted to the FDA in support of the environmental assessments for ivermectin drug products. Detailed information has been submitted on the physical and chemical properties, introduction, fate and effects of the ivermectins in the environment. These data indicate that ivermectin binds tightly to soil and is subject to photodegradation and biotransformation to less active compounds. In contrast, ivermectin is highly toxic to certain aquatic organisms but would not be expected to partition into the aquatic environment. Much lower toxicity has been demonstrated toward bacteria, fungi, earthworms, plants and birds. CVM evaluated ivermectin products based on the use of pattern of the product, the metabolism pattern in target animal, calculations of potential ivermectin residue concentrations in the environment and data on persistence, soil sorption and acute toxicity in aquatic and terrestrial environments.

nice one

utd will go though no tevez for city also the barca and real match will be class

thanks blue morning its just when your told different to what you see with your own eyes and made feel like if i was trying to mislead the members of basics its not a nice felling i think we can put the water issue to bed now hopefully the photographic evidence will be enough to persuade the doubters

best of luck with them they do look well reared

nice pic of a bop i thought

pour on has no effects on bop ive seen bop men feed few day old chickens with pour on to there falcons and if you join a certain forum they talk about useing the pour on in this way to worm there birds its well worth a look im sure the worming of birds in captivity could not be much differnt to the worming of wild birds but then again you seem to think that wild birds cant learn the simple task of drinking like there captive counterparts wild bop while i agree with you take most of there fluids from there kills and normally dont need to drink water but they do im sorry roland but ive seen these things with my own eyes as ive said above ive seen this with my own eyes so it will be my last comment on the matter i really dont know what else to say but one or two paragraphs from the rspb (we all know what liars they are ) wont change my mind if the evidence was from some where credible i would have to rethink my views on the subject but after asking you numerous times you have not got back to me on the pour on subject ask a falconer what he used to worm his birds you may be surprised ill leave it that as its just going round in circles

Rhubarb juice is another story bop do drink water roland ive seen it with my own eyes i once even seen falcon take drops of rain coming down the rocks also seen them drinking in puddles of water not bathing ive seen it with my own eyes and seen lots of video evidence on youtube have a look there lots of vids of wild bop like the ones above

i wouldn't drink it that for sure

i dont winnge alan i dont have any problems at all

roland ive seen them drinking in the wild and there plenty of vids on youtube too also there are lots of falcon men that feed there birds sea fish which are full of salt anything the rspb says can be taken with a pinch of salt as we both know

they played well park,Hernandez were class Rooney was world class

bop do drink water i have seen it lots of times they dont do it often as they take there fluid from there kills but as seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgJEcx9RJLM&feature=related bop do drink water only took me 2 mins to find the amount of salt need to deter a bop from our birds would need more salt then you could fit on a pigeon think this is a bit like the moxidectin story that was going around where pigeon men were doing noting only worming bop as people who keep these birds use moxidectin to worm there birds