which gives our 'friend' Mr Duncan Orr-Ewing, and therefore the RSPB, the very last word , they can have the last word all they want IAN but its not going to save there preciuos beasts, talk is cheap so let them carry on talking and every man that keeps pigeons get aff there a---- and do something about it ,man on here been saying this past couple of years so listen to him ,enough said ;D ;D ;D