Mixxy

And there in lies the reason why this sport is doomed! Detrimental to the race, what about it being detrimental to the sport as a whole, just for the sake of a few pounds and stardom! Well done that man!

Ally i used to be an agent for them, i would not feed it now if it was free. They had a problem there a while ago, food was an awful mess, but the response from Bamfords was pure unprofessional to say the least.

Many national winners and ace champions would prove your opinion wrong! Its a drug that has/is abused for short term performance enhancing and that is what gives it a bad name. But as a drug for treating what it was designed to do its the best. Its no worse than a lot of other drugs, some that have been mentioned in this thread. But what it does do is work efficiently when used correctly, but of course that means when not used correctly it can be lethal. Its for treating not preventing, simple as that really. When you see some of the replies in this thread you see the real reason why it, as well as a lot of other medicines, become a problem.

Better check your dosage buddy!

About half teaspoon to 10 liters. Make sure its 35% stuff, you will see a lot of diluted food grade for sale (bob's Best etc).

See if you can get yourself some Hydrogen Peroxide (human food grade), i guarantee no Baytril needed, nor any yeast problems!

Decimal points, to 3 in club, 2 in fed? How about 3rd club, 5th fed, 1st national?

I've seen results where they have been 6th club 6th sect 6th fed, i know what that tells me

Is a fed ticket worth counting if not in top 3 or 4? Also like to see how many section tickets are won too, because personally i'd rather see say 1st sect, 12th fed than i would 6th sect 6th fed. Proves that bird has gone against the drag and no been part of it.

Cracking game? Only thing missing was some football! Good goal and well done Scotland, cant see either of these teams making the finals unless there is a 3rd spot playoff.

I hope not!

How about studs advertising results/winners from a club they set up (named after the owners business), and nearly all members flying to their or other satellite lofts, so near 100% of birds are bred by the stud! Oh and funnily enough mentioned earlier as having good wins with the Krugers!

Did you not notice that all fanciers mentioned have a very big commercial interest in pigeon racing? Its no surprise that because they are the in thing that they cost a few quid. Buy them, win a bit more with them and even more quids....Its all part of the commercial merry-go-round of pigeon racing!

It does not matter who buys them, good, average or bad fanciers, new introductions have to improve what you already have. If they do not work to your system then they are no good for you! When you bring in a new line of bird that is competing against a family winning 8-12 firsts a year and they only win a 5th, then either they don't like the system or not up to the job. Either way they dont stay long. I should of worked it out when i bought them, but as i noted above i did not realise they were already second hand!

Maybe Hardy does'nt know he sells sh**, but i'm sure a lot will be, same as any fanciers do, they are not all good breeders, even those bred off the best, unless anyone knows different of course, and if you do can you pm a price list please .

Not sure if you are referring to me in that post but I never commented on him just his birds, and its not an opinion its a fact, with the 4 rings sat next to me and a big hole in my bank balance. I'm pleased yours have worked out for you, but lets face it the number he has sold over the last few years there has to be some decent ones out there.

I purchased 4 direct HK off a German website, thinking they were actually direct, but it happens that they were being sold by a 3rd party. After 2 seasons of breeding 1 has had a 5th from 320 birds, so they are no longer with us and will not be sold a 3rd time. Cost quite a few quid and possibly the biggest waste of money i have spent in pigeons!

You would expect them to have them "all over the top 100" wouldnt you? Spend a million quid on lofts/birds etc, create your own club and race equivalent to one man sending about 600 birds every week then yes i would expect winners! As usual though they wont tell you how many fall by the wayside! They must of sold literally 1000's of birds in last 2 or 3 years, so you would expect some good 3rd party results too. Been tried here, and i know a few doing well with them, but more that have not.

Not unless he has moved to China lol. There were 2 pairs BIS in his total auction, the only 2 pairs he was going to keep, this pair was'nt one of them!

Why did Europe "pour" money into Ireland? ...and yes you are right it has been from 2007 onwards, but had Ireland been allowed to do what they wanted then our debt would be somewhat 70% less than it is! We can all take blame for the debts, but its the way it was handled and controlled by Europe that leaves a bad taste.....Be under no illusions Europe WILL control Scotland if thats the way you go... This is my final say as this is about Scotland not Ireland, but don't make the same mistake the Irish people did, like they say if its too good to be true it usually is!

You have no idea Homer! The only difference will be that instead of being controlled from Westminster it will be Brussels! Do you think that a united Europe was created by the big powers to benefit the small ones? I guarantee this time in 5-10 years, if you do go into Euroland then 99% of those who voted for it will be saying it was a mistake Ask any Irish man (like myself) what they think about the united Europe and see what they have to say!! They hung Ireland out to dry and will take decades to pay off the debts. Portugal was the same, but look what they did for the bigger economies of Greece and spain, bent over backwards, i wonder why! Also the main problem with Euro, as far as the UK & Ireland is concerned, that despite liking it or not one of the biggest trading partners is going be England. It was ok in the days of the 1.50 to the pound, but when sterling crashed, it almost destroyed companies overnight (like mine), because almost all of a sudden our exports were 40% dearer and our sales plummeted some 80%. Independence yes, but you want to keep it that way!

well i happen to agree on the other 3 points of delboys original post, it would certainly be a start anyway! My personal opinion is that most birds that are lost are not up for the job, either by failing of fancier or bird, but there are still a lot of good birds that get lost that never used too. I wish i knew the answer, it would save me a good few bob on bottles of whiskey during the racing seasons.

Aye i agree! Before tho i would like to apologise to all those offended by my opinion, and also to all those i insulted and abused. I also would like to commend John Quinn on his excellent moderation skills, especially on this thread.

pmsl is that the best you can do! If you want to see SLAGGING off, maybe you should read some of the posts aimed at me? Infact maybe read your own post!

John, tell me where i have slagged people off? It looks the opposite to me! Why did i quote you as being "out of order", read you post again, almost stating fact and all completely wrong!! Had you taken time to check my account you would of realised that! Silly me i thought admin had a responsibility on here to accept all opinions as long as they are not abusive or insulting. Maybe you should read thise thread again and see who has thrown insults and who has not?