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Hi Gary, I was up in Barnsley in June, spoke to Eric Plant. This might interest you: http://uk.geocities.com/glass.feather@btinternet.com/milers.htm Graeme

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Is she definately out of reach? As I said, first time it happened, the hen was in an upstairs chimney, but when I eventually reached in and got her she was perched within arms reach, though out of sight. Have you tried shining a torch up there to see if she is at least visible? Maybe I'm stating the obvious....

Yes, now I realise why my missus rushed in to get the camera.....

I had this happen a couple of times at the place I used to live. First time it was a young hen. There were multiple fireplaces in the house with different pots leading to different fireplaces, fortunately this hen went down an upstairs chimney, I called the fire brigade and they came, on a sunday evening, with an engine and a device to detect her body heat, yes she was in the chimney, no they couldn't get her out. They didn't charge me, but I think they could have, and some might. We all had cups of tea and a laugh about it. She could hear me, and I eventually talked her down, letting her hear running water and the rattle of feed. She was a bit sooty but ok. Next time was less fortunate, another hen, but she was in one of the main downstairs chimneys. Called a chimney sweep, he brought her down with his brush, alive but choked and blinded with soot, died in my hands as I tried to clean her. Third time, an adult cock, also came down a downstairs chimney but this one wasn't used. He spent three days up there, I pushed him down myself with a plastic bottle of water tied to the washing line, came out flying, went back to the nest, quite happy, made a mess in the dining room. After that I enquired about capping the chimneys but ended up making a wire mesh insert. Kept the pigeons out but provided an ideal site for a crows' nest, they kept the hawk away so it was all good.

Cheers Jimmy, That bird is a Spanish Moroncelo, you can see him in action here:

Cheers, glad you enjoyed them...

Videos of my Pouter pigeons in flight:

New article at the Glasgow Feather Club: http://uk.geocities.com/glass.feather@btinternet.com/milers.htm

Hi lc, No harm in this cross, a lot of the guys who fly them make this cross. The youngsters will vary on a spectrum from racer type through to Horseman type but lacking crop compared to the sire. If you then back-cross, one of the daughters to the sire or another Horseman cock again, you will get a variety of types but some of them will resemble the Horseman more than others. Hope this helps. Graeme

Yes they are English long faced tumblers and one of the colour patterns is baldhead, they also come in beards and selfs, grizzles &c, there are clean legged and muffed varieties, photos here:

Thanks Jimmy, That is a brown bar Jiennense hen. The Jiennense was developed in the town of Jaen, Linares, in Andalucia. They are very strong fliers, derived from a homer cross and descended from an ancient pouter breed sometimes known as the 'cola vuelta' which translates something like curved tail, because they fly with their tail curved upwards as in the photo below. The 'Colillano' or flat tail and the 'Colitejo' or 'tile-tail' carry their tails in a different manner, as the names suggest.

Maybe someone should refer them to this organisation: http://www.picasuk.com/

http://www.zyworld.com/kevin~keeler/Page1.htm

In the sueltas in Spain they dye the pigeons according to the owners' colours, a bit like jockey silks: http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/Glassfeather/pica.htm

Hi Blue cheq, Strict rations are one solution but time consuming, hopper feeding is effective but there is the possibility that older grain is more likely to turn sour, pros and cons either way. Live yoghurt in the drinker helps.

Ummmm.....yes, that's Ash red, it is dominant, but then there is the other red, that's recessive red, it's recessive but not sex-linked, it's autosomal so it is located on a different chromosome other than the z chromosome, so both sexes can carry it as a recessive. Just to illustrate, this is an Ash red bar (Mealy) pigeon: This is an Ash red chequer pigeon: and this is an Ash red spread pigeon: This is a recessive red pigeon:

Hi Snowy, Take a look at these articles, they tell you all about thief pouters: http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/Glassfeather/giralda.htm

Speight, They don't. These are thief pouters, they are supposed to bring other pigeons home, so the further they range from their own loft, the better, as long as they can find their way home. Some people, a few, train their birds and toss them at a distance, usually only about 5 miles, certainly under ten, depending on how far away the nearest loft is. It was really an accident Anthony found out this particular bird could fly that distance, he was moving house and wanted to find out if his birds would, or could try to make it back to the old loft.

Let's face it, the movie industry is not entirely reliable for facts, they would have us believe that great white sharks devour people for fun, that the 'circle of life' produces 'cutesy' lions and all sorts of weird and wonderful things. Given the popular misconceptions about pigeons which the general public have, I think 'Valiant' did us a favour, ok I wasn't entirely 'gripped' by the storyline, I don't think any wood pigeons were used as messengers, but it still provokes the thought: pigeons saved lives!

Hi, You can see pictures of Anthony Kellers' birds here: http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/aicf/ak.htm and here: http://www.blueridgebiological.com/Anthony'sCSTPCpage.htm also: http://www.blueridgebiological.com/CSTPC.htm http://www.blueridgebiological.com/Anthony's-Horseman.htm

See you there Ted. Merry Christmas everyone

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