I can remember 1 or 2 doing ok but not setting the heather on fire..I just had a look through the box of his pigeon stuff i still have but the original lot of pigeons he had from Louella the pedigrees for them are not in it but the later 1's when he got the jim smith wildies and van hee's and Imbrecht's are so i couldnae have brought them up here after he died but i can remember going to Louella's place with him to get them approx 20 yrs ago