leighton1984

dry lofts race better then damp lofts. i do think if you can control the pigeon's environment you can keep them winning week in week out most lofts are controlled by the weather. use what you can to win it is easy just to keep pigeons but to race them to win most weeks is some thing else. you can have the best birds but if the loft is not right it will be very hard to be consistent racer. if the loft is poor then the flyer has to use more products to help there birds.

they are winning in west yorkshire mate and they have been for a long time. they is vdb and they is vdb and i know they do cross very well if used as a base line to start from

not if you can close it at the right times ;) if its used on the roof you can have a slide to cover it.

vallance i will take it off you hand if you do not want it if the price is right but it must be a xtc one

heating plates if they come back from race or have been out in the rain from training no good letting them sit all wet all night as they do not move plus if you have a damp week form is lost. but i have been looking at the xtc heating one's same as the sun ray's in loft but they are not cheap but racing is not cheap any more. you can but all the magic tonic's in the bin as they are all crap good clean water every day best thing for me. you let damp in to loft from vents so you have to slow the flow down.

no one use them then ;) 8)

any one know the cost of Anti -humidity heating plates. do's any one sell them in the uk cheers

best at are lofts was winning the water loo 2 bird club 3 time on the trot never been done since every one in are fed say winning the water loo club is like topping the fed. two races was cross the water and one was a young bird race.

Hi nice name lol first or last name cheers Leighton Milthorpe

Hi king billy i do think they is some thing in it. i have seen pigeons getting smaller in the last ten years i do think pigeons that are not too heavy will be faster than the fat ones but on a hard race we do see that much weight comes of are pigeons is all the weight water as the pigeon dehydrate and after 2-3 days the pigeon starts to put weight back on.

do we over do supplements for are pigeons are we poisoning are birds as we do not know what's in are water.

[table] [/Water quality report Substance Typical value UK/European limit Unit Calcium 12.8375 - mg Ca/l Magnesium 1.8650 - mg Mg/l Residual chlorine - free 0.14 - mg/l Cl2 Residual chlorine - total 0.19 - mg/l Cl2 Coliforms 0 0 no/100ml E-coli 0 0 no/100ml Aluminium 11.596 200 µg Al/l Colour 1.61 20 mg/l Pt/Co Scale Conductivity 142.17 2500 µS/cm Fluoride 0.047 1.5 mg F/l pH (Hydrogen Ion Conc.) 8.00 6.5 - 10.0 pH Units Iron 28.88 200 µg Fe/l Manganese 2.25 50 µg Mn/l Nitrate 1.7954 50 mg NO3/l Nitrite 0.0093 0.5 mg NO2/l Sodium 13.68 200 mg Na/l Turbidity 0.131 4 NTU Copper 0.0203 2 mg Cu/l Lead 2.936 25 µg Pb/l] [/table]

top post best think that i have seen in along time. small lofts win as they only keep the best and breed from his best. if you do remember staf van reet did all his winning with 6 cock in small loft.

no one us the stuff then.

you tell me lol

planet bro's janssen bro's thats all i will say.

any one ever used this stuff.

insulate the the walls that get the cold winds

any one use MARK CAUDWELL racing system

very nice

hope i do not have to treat them.

when we take are birds training i all ways look up at the sky hoping not to see them. had 2 hits this year with them.

they are so high that we never see them lol

pictures of some sion's

some of the best looking birds that i have ever seen. still very big in usa pure this pure that no pure in any pigeons.