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use mcaffee and adaware no problems,,, I used the old mcaffee and now got the new mcaffee,,, working lovely,,, got mcaffee from the net for £25,, the 10 in 1 protection,,, there are many out there,, spy bot, adaware se, adaware 2007, zone alarm, window washer, lots about but becareful some wipe stuff that you need to run progs,,,,

very silly thing to do,,, but I know a genuine fancier who can't vote now due to him not having 100 posts,,, remove their birds is the answer.. also name their original name,,, transparency is the answer,,, maybe in future ask a top fancier to do the judging that way you can't cheat,,, he can post the top 5 and give them marks out of 100,,, goodluck all the genuine fanciers still in,,,

billy witpen genesis is one of their top cocks at the moment,,, we will try to get another son of him next year, but they don't sell many of them... we cross them into another strain of van reet,, which has bred us many fed winners,,,ian axe I think,,,but we got them from peter stanway,,

we give them red bull,, it gives them wings,,, lol,,, only joking,,, If you want to put a bit of weight on them,, we feed cheese,, roll into little balls and they love them,, they won't eat them for a bit but once they get the taste they gulp them down,,,

we had the same with some latebreds years ago,,, take the water out for a few hours each day, because they drink like mad,, The best thing to do is leave them to it and put natural yogart on the food every day,, Some good birds came through it and are now our best racers,,, bacterial infection it must be , ecoli or samenella,, not a lot of stuff will help so leave nature take its course,, you will lose a good few, but the ones that are left will get immune to it,, we use prevention every year,, but you must have a regular system for treatment,, we only treat on the corn and there is no waste then,,, goodluck with the breeding,,

goodluck for the breeding ,, we have introduced some distance birds in and they look the part, but the basket will give us the answers,,, anthony

Andrew what results have you obtained from these birds,,, please give 2007 results,, be nice to see,,

what colour the poo after,, if people come to loft and red poo,, they will think you are giving somethong dodgy..lol..

tried it, don't use it any more,, use individual stuff instead.. suppliments, vitamins, acids, yeasts,,, we know whats in it then,, lots on the market though,, red cell, zell oxygen,, lots about,,,

billy what are the parents of your bird,,, ours is out of witpen genesis and claire,, We also got a freebie from ritchie ryder for the best results in 2006,, no pedigree though,, have asked but all he says is red daniel lines,, lol,, we find the red daniel birds good from 70 to 300 miles,,, the names in our ped are abbeys choice and toe-toe,,, very good birds,, hope you have some luck with them...We will be inbreeding our two principle birds this year to go to stock.. foundation of our lofts for the near future.. anthony

few lesser strains that will be a lot bigger in years to come,, denduiver - belgium sprint birds,, cyriel or deshact de zwarts - where linderluf had his birds originally.. maris - these will become more and more popular. herman caesters - will become a top name in next few years..

we do use G10s , think it help the babies when parents are feeding them,, not cheap though,,,

definatly all gone now lads,, only april onwards birds available,,, thanks for the interest,,, goodluck all for breeding,,, might have some special ones for june july,, but will have to see.. maybe one from the top cock a double g/son of red daniel,, but will keep you posted,, This is one from him this year,,, he is at stock now,, anthony

Jason don't worry I will find 2 for you... I did promise .. lol..

RIGHT THEN NOT SURE IF ANY LEFT NOW,,, WILL HAVE A FEW BIRDS FROM APRIL ON BUT WON'T KNOW ABOUT THE EARLY ONES UNTIL END OF WEEK,, GOTTO LOOK AT THE BOOKS,,, MESSAGE ME FOR ANY INQUIRIES..THANKS FOR THE INTEREST..

she is a maris x janseen,, she has won 2 x 1st club , 1 x 2nd club, 1 x 12th club, 3rd section 16th nat, 3rd section 3rd nat... from six races,,, fantastic crosses janseen x maris, we will have four breeding pair of these,,, all the same way bred,,

AND ANOTHER HERMAN VANDEWEYER.. HE HAS HAD 8 X 1STS,, HIS FIRST YEAR AT ATOCK,,,

HERE IS ONE MORE A MARIS,,, TOP STUFF..

WE WILL HAVE A FEW 2008 BIRDS FOR SALE ,, THEY WILL BE READY END OF FEB EARLY MARCH, SO IDEAL FOR RACING,tHEY WILL BE FROM OUR STOCK BIRDS AS ALL OUR RACE TEAM ARE BRED FROM THEM,THE STRAINS WE KEEP ARE VAN REETS, HERMAN VANDEWEYER,JANSEEN,MARIS,RENE NEWALEART. WE HAVE ABOUT 12 FED WINNERS AT STOCK AND MANY TOP BIRDS HERE,WE BUY IN BIRDS EVERY YEAR WITH NO EXPENSE SPARED. THAY ARE ALL ONE PRICE OF £35 EACH AND I HAVE GOT A FEW DELIVERIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY SO MAYBE I COULD DELIVER THEM FOR £10.. THERE IS ONLY ABOUT 10 AVAILABLE AND ALL MONIES RAISED WILL GO TOWARDS OUR ETS SYSTEM AND FOOD FOR THE BIRDS,, SO THIS COULD BE YOUR ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO GET THESE BIRDS.. HERE ARE SOME OF THE ONES WE OWN,, HAVE A LOOK AT OUR WEB SITE,,ITS A BIT BASIC BUT WILL GET BETTER.. THE FIRST PHOTO IS OF A DOUBLE G/SON OF RED DANIEL - HE HAS BRED 3 X 1ST FED WINNERS AND IS A G/SIRE OF 4 X 1ST FEDS- G/CHILDREN AVAILABLE FROM HIM. THE SECOND PIC IS OF OUR JANSEEN STOCK COCK- HE HAS BRED 16TH FED AND 21 ST FED AND WILL BECOME BETTER WITH AGE.. A DONATION WILL BE GIVEN TO THE SITE.. B WILLIAMS & SON SOUTH WALES OVER 60 X 1STS IN 2 YEARS MESSAGE ME FOR ANY QUESTIONS... ANTHONY http://uk.geocities.com/helen_anthonywilliams@btinternet.com/

we use TCP.. keep the infection away and you will have no probs,,, had a bird come home twice last season with holes in his chest , took a bit of time but 100% now,, infection is the killer not the wound,, goodluck,,

have sent you 2 new photos,, didn't realise that they had to be of birds not posted on the site,, nevrmind,,, hope it doesn't cause too much confusion... anthony

combine winner went for 1400 I think,, mate just told me,,, good for them,,, robert did you buy anything,,,

WHAT WERE THE PRICES LIKE TODAY BOYS,,, i EXPECT A LITTLE HIGH....

might be there but ,, not buying,, I expect prices to be very high,,, we got all we need now,,, goodluck paul ,, but take a few bob,,,

can't email to the address given,, says it faailed ,,, maybe a mistake in the spelling,,