we believe that people wouldn't sell birds that are breeding winners,,most of the stock birds for sale are birds that have not produced the goods,,,we only buy in young birds and also sell young birds only.....entire clearance sales are a different thing......if our stock doesn't breed the goods after 3 years they go to no one,,,,alot of people are selling birds on other peoples performances , , , if they are not winning for you tell the buyers....goodluck to all buying birds at the end of the season,,,,lottery,,,