Roland

Well that is what happens when Amtrak read this forum in their spare time .... most of the day like... lol

Normally it is that Some want to form a club to be a winner ... and take thoses that they can beat ... and others follow thinking they to will find their eropa... But if 98% leave and all join another club, you can bet you *expletive removed* that the winners will not only not be invited, but won't get in if they apply.

Yes... and soaked overnight Then with a dash of Lemon juice for prior to basketing. Leave a mite hungry the night before like.

A woman meets a man in a bar. They talk; they connect; they end up leaving together. They get back to his place, and as he shows her around his apartment, she notices that one wall of his bedroom is completely filled with soft, sweet, cuddly teddy bears. There are three shelves in the bedroom, with hundreds and hundreds of cute, cuddly teddy bears, carefully placed in rows covering the entire wall! It was obvious that he had taken quite some time to lovingly arrange them and she was immediately touched by the amount of thought he had put into organizing the display. There were small bears all along the bottom shelf, medium-sized bears covering the length of the middle shelf, and huge, enormous bears running all the way along the top shelf. She found it strange for an obviously masculine guy to have such a large a collection of Teddy Bears, but doesn't mention this to him, and actually is quite impressed by his sensitive side. They share a bottle of wine and continue talking and, after a while, she finds herself thinking, "Oh my God! Maybe, this guy could be the one! Maybe he could be the future father my children?" She turns to him and kisses him lightly on the lips. He responds warmly. They continue to kiss, the passion builds, and he romantically lifts Her in his arms and carries her into his bedroom where they rip off each other's clothes and make hot, steamy love. She is so overwhelmed that she responds with more passion, more creativity, more heat than she has ever known. After an intense, explosive night of raw passion with this sensitive guy, they are lying there together in the afterglow. The woman rolls over, gently strokes his chest and asks coyly, "Well, how was it?" The guy gently smiles at her, strokes her cheek, looks deeply into her eyes, and says, "Help yourself to any prize from the middle shelf."

Any bird to be broken has to have freedom of the loft. Confidence that it can get in when / if eventually comes back. You must keeping letting them out every three days and fetching back if need be. But they have to feel safe and protected in any enviroment. Yes pairing / young etc. but still allowed out every three days ... some will still go ack to their original loft on hard race days first....

Thin top V percrches... or slat the floor.... Or a rabbit / guinea pig on the floor all stop mating up. If they can't tread they ain't affected. A complete wire floor, or locked up in boxes... but must trap quick... Read a great article where he wasn't bothered, and mate races them to each other, even to eggs or a youngster slipped under them.... but after breeding season. All mkes sense, but I perfer that the are keen to mate. Untill two seasons ago I never seperated them!

http://diets.aol.com/newsandtrends/interim_chrome/_a/red-wine-molecule-helps-mice-live-longer/20061101184509990001 Soon be drunken pigeons falling off their perches ... and falling asleep on the traps lol.

i was gay pied as my fav hen is(also gay?!) lol... just joshing.... I hope lol

One hundred and seventy-four pellets regurgitated by one individual of the Desert race of the -Eagle Owl (Bubo bubo ascalaphus) yielded 765 individuals representing five mammals (four rodents and one insectivore), undetermined snakes and lizards, at least three birds, three and two confirmed scorpions and beetles respectively, and unidentified solpugida and beetles species. By frequency, arthropods constituted 50.8% of the diet, mammals 36.8%, reptiles 9.1% and birds 3.3%. The results suggest that the Eagle Owl is an opportunistic hunter and feeds on a wide range of animals.

Yes agree with you Hyth, Karen was very helpful and prompt with a query I once had. Was going to Last years A.U.Convention, but it was just after the Canadian C.U, and having spent a month just over there, I had to cry off. Am in Canada again soon and will be there in October /November so may well get to the American AU with my mucker Billy Taylor of Houstan, golly keep threathening to go over there too in February...Have to find a rich lady I guess!

Be as regular as you can in any system you decide on. Keep them warm and airy.... and dry at all times. Weigh out a 0unce and a 1/4 and mark the utensil that you will feed them with so YOU know that you don't over feed. - Maybe that you can split this into a light morning and evening feed remember that in the colder weather the feed at night is all important as it keeps them warm and helps when the temperature is likely to fall... helps control and trapping. Get a coat that you will always wear. Calm and gentle and methodical in all approaches... especially when catching. Learn and become accustom to those needful traits and it will put you onto the road of a never ending learning circle. The more a fancier is successful, the more you listen, always bearing in mind what THEIR system is, because though the above, and there are many more, basics for keeping, the birds will re-act accordingly to the system that you decide on. You can’t blend systems... a little sip of another system perhaps.... And don't listen to the crap thesis like a certain strain needs this amount of food, or won't take to wheat or barley and other codswallop. They are, and will always be to all sense and purpose PIGEONS and not Humans - though often show more sense than some of us lol -. Always note which bird perches where... easier to note dropping there etc. And the best time to observe is when they are out and about! Take care and good luck.

It's illegal for rats (at least the 4-legged kind) to exist in Alberta and it's been this way for eons. The Rat Patrol has been in existence for all these many years and cruises the borders with other provinces and US, and any activity that's suspicious of rats is investigated immediately and thoroughly. Any positive cases are killed off quickly. It sounds incredible and very few outsiders actually believe we are rat-free - but it's true! Very often in the Fall, when young muskrats leave their birth places to look for their own territories, people will mistake them for Norwegian rats and immediately phone the Rat Patrol who check it out. I've actually worked for years in fairly close contact with one member of the Rat Patrol in my area. Pity we can't keep out the relatively few 2-legged criminal rats that sneak in here to cause trouble among decent people.

Dandydoo I don't think that is at all a reality when you say 'Belge and Holland all use ETS ... A. it isn't allowed in it's entirit, some races also have to be manually clocked as well .. and many can't afford it! JMO

Any one going to the World's biggest pigeon fair ... I so I am lead to believe. http://www.taubenmarkt-kassel.de/gb/index1.htm

Come into the palour said the spider to the fly ... be careful where you roam Tammi lol

Well said Craig, and I for one agree with you doing it, carry on mucker ... I feel that the more that is relevant to pigeons put up the better ... even if like me a bit late lol

Tammy thought Hyacynth was hankering to be your first contestant in the 'Ring' lol... cheeky S... lol

Because it is my name... boring I know, but then again I am of the few - it would sem - that actually like the name they were given at birth ... Haven't been christen, hence 'Was given at birth.

True invincible_spirit, that is what Tricho is for - sorry I should have said Coci - Tricho perhaps. Yes the droppings were loose yesterday, hence the treatment... much better already today, have firmed up somewhat. Not perfect yet, but soon will be with a little luck, and a prayer... wel a bit of pleading, ok begging there lol.

Hi all, have 5 birds a mite of colour. So I seperated them into hospitalise boxes (2' 6'' x 18'', and gave them some Tricho. Was suprised, though have noted before but not let it sunk in, that today their droppings were a lot better, though a mite wet, but the amount of water they had drunk was quite eye opening. I like droppings nice and firm nut brown little balls with a splat of white like you all do. The ones you sweep into a dust pan and wash the wax floor and swill out when all gone. But of course they can't always, for one reason or another, be like that. But must admit the amount drank was phenominal to the norm.

Well Ken Livingstone is not a pigeon lover by any stretch of imagination... and Animal right / animal lovers are at it in trafalger square qith a loop hole and feeding pigeons ... they send the Cleaners out constantly to sweep the feed up ... what a waste of taxes...

http://news.aol.co.uk/families-shocked-as-pelican-swallows-pigeon/article/20061025025009990001

http://news.aol.co.uk/families-shocked-as-pelican-swallows-pigeon/article/20061025025009990001

Our Connie is a worker flat out for the sport Good Pigeon News. Pigeon racing is coo-l A partnership of bird, human By Denis Cuff Knight Ridder/Tribune news Published June 7, 2006 Chicago Tribune, United States - 26 minutes ago CONCORD, Calif. -- Ron Actis paced his back yard and scanned the skies above Kirker Pass for his pigeons racing home from Nevada. It was a 180-mile, four-hour-plus romp for the birds. It was an exhilarating and torturous wait for their owner, breeder and trainer. "I never eat breakfast on race day. I'm too on edge," said Actis, who has raced pigeons as a hobby for nearly 50 years. "Every week on racing day, it's like the first time for me. I get so excited when I see that first bird coming in and tucking for the landing." While millions of other Americans watched horses race around an oval track in the Kentucky Derby that day, Actis and some 200 other Bay Area residents entered their thoroughbreds of the skies in races unlike any in sports. The competitors, trucked to a central starting point, set their own courses to their own finish line. Each bird flies to the home coop, getting its bearings from the sun, the earth's magnetism and low-frequency sounds. Winners are judged by calculating speeds, not times, over their respective courses. Athletic birds The unusual format helps explain the low profile and widely misunderstood nature of pigeon racing, a sport built around a bond between dedicated people and athletic birds. Homing pigeons can fly from 40 m.p.h. to 60 m.p.h. in races that cover 100 miles to 1,000 miles over territory they sometimes have barely or never seen. The feat is the equivalent of a human running 100 miles in a day without a map. In wars, homing pigeons have delivered messages saving thousands of soldiers' lives. Roman armies used them. A pigeon called GI Joe saved 1,000 British soldiers out of radio contact in 1943 by delivering a message to call off a bombing attack that would have blown them to bits. In peace, the birds keep coming home to roost and race. "These are not common wild pigeons that you see pooping at BART stations," said Actis, 64, a retired plumber. "These are domesticated, pure-bred athletes that are trained, fed and cared for by humans to bring out their homing instincts." In the human part of this people-animal partnership, the shrinking ranks of pigeon fanciers breed and care for birds from chick to champion. Many rise at 4 a.m. to sweep cages, give medicines or prepare birds for workouts. Some stay up late at night for lost birds to return. Most racers are middle-age or older men who compete and socialize in a sport that some jokingly call poor man's horse racing. "We are a dying breed," said Don McKinney of Danville, Calif., who took up the hobby in 1961. McKinney is a member of the 79-year-old Martinez Homing Pigeon Club. His son has taken up the sport. High costs deter newcomers. Racers can pay from $100 per bird to tens of thousands of dollars per bird. Pigeon lofts, where the birds live when not racing, can cost thousands of dollars to build too. It's time-consuming The time commitment of regular cleaning, caring and exercising birds also can deter people. Newcomers typically face a long period of losing to experienced racers who have mastered the intricacies of breeding and training. Nonetheless, McKinney said the low profile of his sport doesn't dilute his passion for breeding and hatching to racing his birds. "You can be Al Davis in your own back yard," McKinney said of his sport. "There is no [former footfall commissioner] Pete Rozelle to tell you what to do." To get birds with talent, owners need to learn about breeding. But proper training can hone those skills, fanciers say. Both breeding and training are high on Actis' priority at his loft, a network of neatly painted white and blue rooms that might be mistaken from the outside as housing for humans. "That's Lady Janssen over there," Actis said of his prize breeder imported from Europe. "It was raised by the Janssen brothers of Belgium, probably the most famous pigeon people in the world." Pigeon racing began in Belgium in the 1800s and is a major sport there. Actis wouldn't divulge the price of Lady Janssen, but some pigeon fanciers say they have paid thousands of dollars for a top breeder. Lady's Janssen's babies will race for the first time later this year. Actis and other trainers gradually fly their young birds increasingly longer distances to build up endurance and homing skills. To be sure, success depends on the uncanny navigation ability of the pigeons. "When you take them places they haven't seen, homing pigeons come home. No other bird does that," Actis said. "A wild pigeon, we call them commies, has the ability to come from five miles away, but our racing birds must find their way 500, 1,000 miles or more." Pigeon racers who move often will give their older birds to someone living nearby. Once in their new home, the racers will rebuild their flock with new birds hatched at the new location. Birds occasionally get lost, however. "I had one bird that didn't come back for a year," said pigeon racer John Cannon. Another pigeon returned after a month with its neck slashed by a hawk's talons. The pigeon recovered. Raised from babies "If you own birds, you have to expect nature to take its course," Cannon said. "I try not to get too attached to them, but you can't help it when you band a pigeon in the nest as a baby, spend time with it, and talk to it when you're scraping the cages." Races remain the ultimate test for the birds and their owners. The night before a recent Saturday race, Actis and other pigeon owners brought their birds to the Martinez clubhouse for the race check-in. Club race organizers held the birds over an electronic scanner that read an electronic chip on a band attached to the birds' leg. This computerized information can be updated later when finishing times are added. The racers joked, compared bird notes and ate barbecued sausages at the shoreline clubhouse decorated with photographs of top pigeons and members of the club. The next morning, Actis was alone again, walking a wooden platform by his loft while waiting for the birds to return in two races from Nevada. "They should be here," he said, squinting into the sunlight. "The wind might have slowed them down, or blown them south." A week earlier, Actis' lead bird circled over his house for about 45 seconds before finishing. It lost the race by 30 seconds. This morning, Actis' first bird arrived and passed promptly through the coop gate to trigger an electronic clock to record its finish time. The bird didn't win, though. Actis gave the bird a drink of electrolytes and a meal of light seeds with a low oil content. "You wouldn't want to eat a big steak after running a marathon," he explained. Later, during the second race, Actis' first bird came in first out of a group of some 400 birds racing 250 miles. "It was a thrill," he said. "I'll be ready for next week."

Guenia Pig a choc bar for the lad around the corder... The rest 20 minutes at a demolition sitre, and a £5 builds a complete new inside lol. couple of Lintals planed and Garden Lime rubbed in with a slight damp cloth... stops it flying about and not getting in birds eye. cool. for the 4 x 2 in nest boxes, placed on the beer mats soaked in creaote.