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They have just part ex the bycle for a tandam... have a bigger trailer now to help with the moving lol Mind Chris issists on sitting at the back A. make sure she is peddling, .... and he can scivvy lol

Think I may have posted these before... Two blondes living in Townsville were sitting on a bench talking and one blonde says to the other, "Which do You think is farther away Melbourne or the Moon?" The other blonde turns and says "Helloooooooooo, can you see *expletive removed* Melbourne.??" CAR TROUBLE A blonde pushes her BMW into a gas station telling the mechanic that it simply died. After he works on it for a few minutes, it is idling smoothly. She asks, "What's the story?" He replies, "Just sh** in the carburretor" "Ohh How often do I have to do that?"she asked SPEEDING TICKET A police officer stops a blonde for speedingand asks her very nicely if he could see her license. She replied in a huff, "I wish you people would get your act together. Just yesterday you take away my license and today you expect me to show it to you!" RIVER WALK There's this blonde out for a walk. She comes to a river and sees another blonde on the opposite bank. "Yoo-hoo!" she shouts,"How can I get to the other side?" The second blonde looks up the river then down the river and Shouts back, "You ARE on the other side." The first one says "Duh ..so I am . Sorry to have bothered you!!!" AT THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE A gorgeous young Redhead goes into the doctor's office saying that her body hurt wherever she touched it. "Impossible!" says the doctor. "Show me." The redhead took her finger, pushed on her left breast and screamed, then she pushed her elbow and screamed in even more. She pushed her knee and screamed; likewise she pushed her ankle and screamed. Everywhere she touched made her scream. The doctor said, "You're not really a Redhead, are you? "Well, no" she said, "I'm actually a blonde." "I thought so," the doctor said. "Your finger is broken" BLONDE ON THE SUN A Russian, an American, and a Blonde were talking one day. The Russian said, "We were the first in space!" The American said, "We were the first on the moon!" The Blonde said, "So what? We're going to be the first on the sun!" The Russian and the American looked at each other and shook their heads. "You can't land on the sun, you idiot! You'll burn up!" said The Russian. The Blonde replied, "We're not stupid, you know. We're going at night!" IN A VACUUM A blonde was playing Trivial Pursuit one night. It was her turn. She rolled the dice and she landed on Science & Nature. Her question was, "If you are in a vacuum and someone calls your name, can you hear it?" She thought for a time and then asked, "Is it on or off?" FINALLY, THE BLONDE JOKE TO END ALL BLONDE JOKES! A girl was visiting her blonde friend, who had acquired two new dogs, and asked her what their names were.The blonde responded by saying that one was named Rolex and one was named Timex. Her friend said, "Whoever heard of someone naming dogs like that?" "HELLLOOOOOOO......," answered the blonde. "They're watch dogs!"

Think Bilco was right ... and of course still is.

And the European before, and the wW/C before that. Shouldn't even be on the selectors list.

Yep I like that!

if you were a Canadian I guess.... Me, well I do like the scenary etc. I hop you do too. http://www.castanet.net/news/Offbeat/59025/Canadians-explained-to-Americans

I think that comment bears a lot of truth ... He's wages and pocket won't be affected and that's for sure. Might be an incentive bonus lost too, so team mates won't like losing that money too... But what the heck we've all got Ferraries ..

Of course no one can say United would have drawn or won with Rooney. Yet every time the camera focussed on him he was scowling and looked so mad. I believe he was... and that was part and partial of the punishment for being a spoilt brat that can't control a dirty mouth in public... Enough said on that subjected as it has been well documented and all sides stated their beliefs biases etc. However I do believe that sitting there helpless was the biggest part of his punishment. Must feel now that he DID let himself, and team mates down, but more importantly his fans! I further believe that that lesson may auger well for others. Sad side is that the TRIPLE has gone too. Think they will win just about every game now, especially the Premiership... so that may be the silver lining yet!

Don't let the owner know.... more grieve than it will ever be worth ... When it's gone, they will be worried enough and you will know.... far better than a confrontation.

Good Photo that! I believe that it is drinking water. As for 'Joe Soap' ever being on our side, or having an inkling of thought even to our plight, let alone 'Pigeons' That has gone by the board yonks ago and will never happen ... One comment of deceit and untruth by Ken Livingston put the final nail in the coffin with the well used 'Flying Rats' vermin etc. May get on board with song birds and such a little. But as the 'SOS' and country concerns have been banging their heads against the proverbial door, I also think that is long gone. Only hope would have been through 'Parliamentary' channels, but fear too many palms are, and would be greased ever to have a chance. Remember the RSPB are very wealthy and massive landowners in their own right. This money making machine will and will have, trodden down under feet any cause against them via mean fair - and most foul. This I believe most are assigned to and believe it will never alter. Certainly not in our life time.

Good post mucker, Good video and one to promote I wager. Well dome matey.

Jam HASN'T seen wild B.O.P. drinking water, and niether have you. The B.O.P. Brigade took the lead from the RSPB regards Invertamin.... they never used it before, and DON'T use pour on.... indeed just why would they go out the way to find and be able to get it, when Strongrig etc. etc. is readlily available. Likewise after their Blunder regards the 'Salt that they assertained would be a detterent, certainly was and is lol, so they put out popagander to fool the gullible. Hoodwinked you are, and JAM is only foddering the wishes of his RSPB and B.O.P. friends, full stop. Anyway never mind that, nor the salt etc. when we can use Rhubarb juice, and Sheep Dip so effectively, likewise toughed glass and canaries... so perhaps more now will take them on board. Mind the strange fact is that the B.O.P. and other carrion eater were nigh eradicated via using salt! Now chunter all you like, just delve into any ole timer that was a naturist etc. and ask. Likewise any good Gamekeeper of the past. End of.

Mark, you are fed beetroot and turned red. JAM hasn't shown me, niether did you, B.O.P. Drinking water. A tame feathered one that has to yes. And again you are fooled via the 'Wormer' they never did till it was discovered 'POUR ON' did, and does kill B.O.P. they don't use that. So instead of, once again putting downers on folks trying to do their bit, just leave them to it, for it certainly in no way affects you. Over look the proven reality, and stick to RSPB poperganda by all means, but let others acyually do something to protect their birds! Simple that.

This post means that they struggle with even a little salt even when DRINKING water. Regardless what you believe and show, outside of Kept B.O.P. they don't drink water. Yes may well bath or drown other birds, but don't drink it. It sends them doo lally first off as their system can't handle it. Gosh just where are we here?! It has been proven sucessful many times over and for 100's of year, yet you CHOOSE to disrepage it. Don't do it then.... wait for the magic wand. Come over to my place and find any B.O.P or S/H etc. You will find Salt and Rhubarb juice etc. most likely, but no S/H! Let alone any Percy's. Not going to indulge in this frivoulous and meaningless debate any longer. Because I know you have heard it doesn't work and as such gives one the excuse of spouting 'Shalln't help myself, and others because it is fruitile'. etc.

Only had three to sort, and now dusted. There was a Percy - apparently - close by fora few days... but hasn't been seen since. Only one I hear of escape this way Alan was when a S/H devoured a ring neck dove here abouts and the girl didn't think to salt it. Yes would have flown of if not disturbed by Mr Willow (Bat) and returned for meal. Mind I believe that took a liking to a canary or something like and hasn't been back.

Was led to believe that 'Anti Freeze' had been altered and the poisonous ingrediant had been removed. That it had been rendered useless as a poison. Now we have the RSPCA and co spouting about cats being poisoned by 'Anti Freeze'! Indeed I believe some court cases are pending! Another popergander crap scenario spouted out one minute to stop folks using it as a poison eh! Just who are gullible? Yep seems many are too easierly led!

Another con for the gullible that believe DON'T think INVERTAMIN KILLS B.O.P. It does and well they know it! But it has to be 'POUR ON' We use it ourselves they squirm! YES they well advertised that one and gullible wish to believe. Birds have lice etc. to keep their feathers / quills spot. Like the Belgiums DON'T rid their birds of them... most just the UK think in all honesty Just Ask Me' that you are a hawk lover! You spout out the same gabbage as the RSPB flout and don't wish to let others follow tried and tested, and PROVEN methods. Go and ask any 'Land Man' how they got shot of B.O.P. and carrion etc. Same ways as the Kites etc. 100's years earlier 'SALT' next your being trying to convince fanciers that B.O.P. are scavengers who ALSO will not pass up a chance of Carrion. Like a Cull injected strigyt afer death with 2 mill of Goldern Fleece sheep dip, and a few feather left around it's carcase -especially after a rain y spell Percy and co. won't swoop and eat, and hopefully take back to their nest. You dream on, and I won't bother to discuss these 'Proven' points. Think I, and other fanciers could be taken in by your crap and drivel - like so many choose to be by the RSPB popugander to our birds detrimental downfall. Yep I think you [probably have 'B.O.P. and are a member of the RSPB. End of.

Yep IN CAPTIVERTY! Full stop. Like rabbits will drink when tame / in house. BUT that is - like the Hawk that is tether TAME - FOR THEY NORMALLY get their moisture from the Grass etc. The three wonders of Nature are. A hen drinks water but doesn't pee. A rabbit doesn't drink water but pees, and a donkey craps a square turd out of a round '*expletive removed*'. B.OP. Bath in water and keep their feather etc. right, also in Dust! But if fed dry meat in captiverty they Have to take a little moisture, though - like the rabbit, and our Pendics, it is alien to them but a MUST.... but not salted. Think you wish to see the RSPB/ RSPCA retract in public and spend £0000 stating adverts like' Further to our servey regards Salted Pigeons being a detriment to B.O.P. prey, it has been ammended as this has an adverse effect on the B.O.P. so would all PIGEON lover please refrain from distroying our B.O.P. Yep that should suffice.

Without even looking or SEARCHING ... http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oGdSSTZqVN9CMAWi5XNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjE0MjM1NzA4OQRfcgMyBGFvAzAEZnIDYW5zX3FwXzEEaG9zdHB2aWQDMnQ1dmwwb0dkVEJpMEFKMVRhR1dEd2xaVWgwWTZFMmxacE1BQ0NpNQRuX2dwcwMwBG5fdnBzAzAEb3JpZ2luA3NycARxdWVyeQNTYWx0IGtpbGxzIGJpcmRzBHNhbwMxBHZ0ZXN0aWQDUUkwMTg-?p=Salt+kills+birds&fr2=sb-top&fr=ans_qp_1&vdata=0%2C0%2C0%2C0

This is in regards the normal birds that DRINK water! B.O.P. DON'T, IT IS .... Birds differ greatly in their ability to cope with salty food and water. Birds such as seabirds are able to eat marine animals and drink seawater without a problem, while many songbirds can die if they take in quantities of salt. Birds have a primitive, largely reptilian type kidney which, although able to secrete some salt, is quite poor at it. The ability to process salt varies between species, but most can produce uric acid with a maximum salt concentration of about 300 mmol/litre. Amongst our garden birds, house sparrows and pigeons are some of the most salt tolerant species. The capability to secrete salt seems to be linked to habitat, particularly marine environment and drought conditions. This is nicely illustrated by the savannah sparrow. The subspecies that inhabits saltmarsh is capable of secreting 2-3 times as much salt than other subspecies that live in salt-free habitats. To compensate for the kidneys, birds posses another reptilian feature that serves specifically to excrete salt the nasal gland. Also known as the salt gland, it is located in the birds skull in the forehead. Although the nasal gland is present in all birds, it is functional only in those species that are regularly exposed to salt in their diet. The salt concentrating capability is dependent on the ecology of the species, but adaptive and, possibly, acclimative changes can occur. In birds that regularly eat a diet high in salt or drink salt solutions, the nasal glands increase in size. The only land birds with active nasal glands are some desert species such as the ostrich, and many birds of prey. Nasal glands are able to excrete salt in high concentrations about ten times as high as kidneys are able to. This enables all seabirds to eat fish, crustaceans and even plankton, and to drink seawater. In an experiment, a black-backed gull was given one tenth of its body weight (equivalent to about 7 litres or 13 pints for an adult human) of seawater. The bird eliminated the entire salt load in 3 hrs! The nasal gland is only active when it is needed to eliminate salt. It always excretes salt in high concentration, and so wastes very little water in doing so. In contrast, a kidney will need three pints of fresh water to eliminate salt from one pint of seawater. Because most garden birds are poor at coping with salty food, it is important not to offer them anything with appreciable amount of salt in it. As such, salty fats, salty rice, salted peanuts, most cured foodstuffs, chips etc should not be offered to birds. It can be difficult to eliminate salt entirely, but very small amounts of salt should not cause any problems, particularly if fresh drinking water is also available. nOW THINK ABOUT IT! If you did SEARCH you want find ample evidence!

Could say makes ice cream from the back sides! What do you think it does? Where have you looked? Well google it, search like others do etc. BUT more importantly 'Act' and do something to help your birds, other birds and the sport as an whole. This was recommended as I state by the RSPB & RSPCA JOINTLY AS A DETERRENT... It works, and obviously they don't recommend it now!, also they can't get salt out of their system. Ask a Game Keeper. etc. Or perhaps you believe in the tooth fairy with a magic wand.

I think Carlo Ancelotti is right, his future has already been decided.... He'll be back in Italy with his old club at seasons end to start his new side out over the close season. Like to see Chelsea clobber them ... But would like to see the Triple achieved again, so I'm on a winner either way. Think if pushed I'd plump for Chelsea as they haven't much left to go for.

This may help a bit: Antibiotics Antibiotics are poisons that work by building up to a certain concentration in the blood and once they reach the correct concentration, they become toxic to the bacteria (and other things) that they are intended to treat. They do not address the problem until they reach the required toxic level of concentration in the blood stream and this takes time. That is why the doctor always insists that patients take the full prescription at the time prescribed. The correct concentration of the drug in the blood has to be reached and then maintained to eliminate the disease causing bacteria. Antibiotics such as tylan, doxicycline and most of the other antibiotics used by pigeon fanciers are designed to reach the target level of concentration in the blood only after several doses and after two or three days of scheduled use. Giving them one day, say Sunday, after returning from a race is useless. The treatment adds nothing of value because one dose is inadequate to reach blood concentrations anywhere near what would be lethal to any disease-causing organism. The only benefit of abusing antibiotics in this way is purely psychological on the part of the fancier. It makes the fancier feel good, not the bird. What it does is build the resistance of the disease causing organisms by chronic under dosing and encourages the government food and drug watchdogs to push for bans on the sale of these antibiotics without medical supervision. Abusing antibiotics is more serious than most of the other silly things that we pigeon fanciers constantly do to make us feel like we are increasing our chances of winning. This is because this type of abuse can actually pose a threat to human health. The good effective drugs get banned or become less effective as a result and we only have ourselves to blame. As a thumb rule, regular strength tetracycline antibiotics like Terramycin are used for pigeons at 4 level teaspoons per 4 litres of water for 7-14 days, and Terramycin concentrate powder is used at 2 teaspoons per 4 litres for the same treatment period - so it's important to read the label to know the strength of product you've bought. As Hal says, the use of a small amount of citric acid (from lemons) - or apple cider vinegar - added to these solutions aids immensely in the absorption of this class of antibiotic across the intestinal wall and into blood vessels for distribution throughout the body. In chickens, erythromycin (commercial name: Gallimycin) is very useful in dealing with Mycoplasma species that are part of a respiratory problem. It is much less useful in pigeons since their crop bacteria destroy it readily (they destroy chloramphenicol too) so it is hard to get a good treatment level of either of these drugs into the bloodstream. Injection of chloramphenicol by needle and syringe gets around this problem. Gord. Oxfendazole is a member of the benz-i-mi-da-zole family which is a large chemical family used to treat worm and fluke infections. However, there is widespread development of resistance and their use is decreasing. They have broad activity against roundworms and a wide safety margin. There are several: mebendazole, flubendazole, fenbendazole, oxfendazole, oxibendazole, albendazole, etc.. The most effective of the group are those with the longest life in the body - such as oxfendazole, fenbendazole, albendazole, because they are not rapidly metabolized to inactive products. Effective concentrations are maintained for an extended period in the plasma and gut. Mebendazole, flubendazole, and fenbendazole are effective against worms in the digestive and respiratory tracts of birds. Fenbendazole (commercial name: Panacur) is about 80-100% effective against roundworms but should be avoided because it can easily cause feather abnormalities in overdose. Other wormers: Ivermectin (Ivomec, Eqvalen): Broad spectrum wormer, a member of the avermectin family. Effective against roundworms, hairworms and stomach wall worms. Dose: 500 -1000 mg per bird. Can be dosed in the drinking water, but the efficacy of this method is debatable. The surest way is to treat the pigeons individually. 1-2 drops by mouth of Ivomec is the correct dose. The higher dosage is needed to treat roundworms and, for some reason, even this is occasionally ineffective. New generation avermectins such as Abamectin may be more effective. Abamectin is a relatively new product and is applied as drops to the skin; it is highly effective against hairworms and roundworms as well as external parasites such as lice and mites. It is currently available in Europe. Moxidectin: A member of the Milbemycin family, Moxidectin is a highly effective product that provides prolonged protection against re-infestation, effective against hairworms, roundworms and external parasites. It seems to be a relatively safe product that is used in the water and can be given during the breeding, moulting and racing seasons. Levamisole (Tramisol, Levasol, Ripercol): Good against roundworms (70-90% effective), but usually fails when used to treat threadworms or stomach wall worms. Dose: 1 to 1.5 grams per gallon for 1-2 days. NOTE: This dosage often causes some pigeons to vomit. This drug is an immune stimulant even at lower dosages. Piperazine: Effective against roundworms only, and only 60-80% effective here. Dose: 15 mg per bird (300 mg per gallon) for 2 days. It is best to avoid using piperazine. Praziquantel (Droncit): Excellent against tapeworms and flukes. Dose: 6 mg per pigeon once (1/4 of a cat-size Droncit tablet). Pyrantel Pamoate: Excellent against roundworms - 80 to 100% effective. Dose: 1-2 mg per pigeon – 75 mg per gallon for 1-2 days. Repeat in 3 weeks. Hope this helps a bit.

No! Lard mixed with salt doesn't infringe thier flight or flying ... if anything they slip through a wind slip stream easier lol. Salt. B.O.P. don't drink water ... might bath in a puddle etc. but DON'T drink as they get their fluids from the blood of their victims. So they can't clear the salt from their system. Pigeons do drink water of course! Was how they sorted all out before... If ever a carcase was found, salt was poured over it. the RSPB and RSPCA actually brought it out as a detterent to B.O.P. atacking pigeons as they certainly don't go back for more ... Well they got that right Rhubarb juice: This will render any bird useless in no time at all ... so one has to be careful hat bird it is put upon ... and don't want your pigeon to be able to preen it' self... nor a mate. Sheep dip: Goldern fleece for example will sort out any bird within 20 seconds to a minute. Sparrow Hawks will drop a bird, say a thrush, to attack an canary. It is unfortunate if the canary is house within a Glass tank, or behind glass. If not dead, one must be careful how one picks the S/Hawk up.... mustn't get it's head stuck under your foot for example.

Many, especially in places like Canada, the birds are housed and kept in a darn site longer than here, A. Weather and . hungry B.O.P. But never seem to have any ill effects ...