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probally some have been too far in bred but if you look at bervadam janssens they do not look like brasspennings why is that and they do not look like the ones from the 80s i could not comment on 70s the red romains look the same as the 80s though yes i did know they had other colours cheers ALAN

what do you think Spencer your a JVB man please give your opinion as here we have a team with winners and breeders of winners cheers Alan

i think with all familys certain fanciers cultavate lines that they want and concentrate on them possable that also happened with janssens as if you look at brasspennings those bl cheqs look like peas in a pod look at the freek romain reds the deprut as well just different lines cultavated but still the main thing is the 2 common denomanaters winners that breed winners cheers Alan

yes very true mate but they got to be winning and breeding winners out of turn before you can market them like that at the end of the day they win and win big cheers Alan

you better believe it

but the bros must have been great stock men as look at the modern day familys most have Janssen blood cheers a lan

SOME REALLY BAD DRIVERS ON THE ROAD LOL

I BET NOT THE FIRST AND NOT THE LAST LOL

thats a new way to get rid run it over cheers Alan

a lot of different familys mostle janssen based for sprint/mdist and jan arden based for distance what do you race mate i have the MUELMAN BOOK lent it to a friend i believe he got rid of most of his old lines as he know races distance and they not up to par for that so the story goes cheers Alan

no need to LEIGHTON they are too slow for my neck of the woods cheers Alan

the facts are the most popular family is janssen more prepotent more people winning with them more useing them as a cross i am afraid Spencer if you where to conduct a poll the janssens would win by a mile there are no where near the lofts with JVB they have had there day just look at the midlands their old hot bed not many lofts have them now cheers Alan

there we have it the Janssen family have been the greatest birds pue or crossed the sport has known cheers Alan

thats why its a free world your welcome to your opinion i do not know enough about this family to comment regards Alan

phil he just looks over the5ft6in fence and growls all quiet then lol am trying to learn him to read and put a notice up not allowed pop and junior and who else lol

a nice grizzle family to try

i would not use that when feeding y/bs

the next door neibour has 2 dogs and they jump up at the fence and yap so i just let mycross great dane irish wolf hound out that shuts them up lol

you would be surprised they may be stronger than you think my dogs out with the birds o/b and y/bs and even come in the loft the small dog barks when they take off but they do not bother with him they are used to him get a dog mate kill 2 birds with one stone safe from cats unwelcome guests and also they not bothered when dogs bark hope you get them back best of luck cheers Alan

cracking ped forms is the comments for racing results i bet it his cheers Alan

they are a real nice team best of luck with them cheers Alan

may be thats a new family crossed with JAB Stewart you never know cheers Alan

thank you very much top guy i will be in touch cheers Alan

bang on the money spencer there best racer was purchased by happyco lofts who named it the white bandit

they are crackers Mark will make top birds