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amtrak never give a time for pick up or delivery, however they have depots everywhere so makes transfering from one area to another easier, in order to do something on a small scale you would need contacts in all these main areas so can collect from one point, with the cost of petrol rising ill be supprised if amtrak dont hike there prices even further. Also how would you charge a fee ? if only carrying one bird from a to b nothing else to collect or deliver thats minmum wage plus wear and tear on a ventlated van lots of things to concider realy Jon. However if you get a fancier who is willing to have all birds from there area delivered to them you would have one collection point / delivery point

i have won second club with a yearling at 512 miles same cock won year after, but if i valued the birds i wouldnt send them. But hey your birds your call. cod liver oil on a good superwidowhood mix all week covered in brewers yeast, let him have there hen allday b4 basketing ( if on widowhood ).Fats are important i.e peanuts and hempseed and black rape. Please note this is how i prepare for a 500 mile race and others will have different methods and also achieve good results

thanks Vallance

they are hens ;-)

Just Bought a mealy and a red check off louella some nice red cocks on todays sales vallance

The bird is your property and thefore yours, when you report a stray you are requested to, contain it till such a time the owner collects it, however if he wishes to keep it tell him he can buy it for a very high sum. Or as a kind guesture promise him a pair of ybs next season out of it

he might even do a swap for something

yup Kirky on here has a pair of Jacobins for sale ring 01723 581550

2 pairs still left

would he be intrested in selling the hen and how much?

yes there are reds in delbars there was a cock called 5 star a friend in Brid had him but died a few years back , another mealy toped our fed twice a few years ago and a few about that i know have won, just thought i'd try here 1st then do some more research. Are they both hens gangster?

Wanted Red hens preferably Van hee,Delbar,Jan Arden or Dordin mealys

1 breeding pair of Jacobeans £15 contact Grayham on scarborough 01723 581550 Please note these are for collection only Red Cock Black hen both un rung old birds hence price

think there all gone now might be a pair left

5 Pairs Of Indian Fantails £15 a pair, these birds belong to a friend and are available collection only from Scarborough North Yorkshire Various Colours Ring Grayham on 01723 581550 He Works Mainly Nights So Leave Him A Message On His Answerphone

I report all strays and take any nehu and Scotish birds back as far as Sunderland once a fortnight , i also collect my birds when reported when they are collectable, if my bird is with a non fancier i ring the local club secatary to ask if a member can retreve it. People who kill stay pigeons are killing the sport, and the negative publicicity by having a bin it poll on the site is never going to change the publics perception of pigeon flyers. Nice to see the majority on site would try to get the birds nearer to home as i do, a true sportsman would do this and not the bin it approach as it is unsportsman like.

should show a copy of cctv at blackers

looks like somethings been droped on that box , take the money and sod the animals welfare, must be worth a few free deliverys tho

a pigeons body has a natural balance i.e minerals that it takes on board to effectivley rehydrate without flooding its internal organs must take on salt / sugars. Many years ago i had a hen flew her heart out took 3rd club and flooded herself with drinking too much water to rehydrate, this was on a very warm day water on its own does not rehydrate yr pigeons and will increase recovery rate or end up in the damage of yr birds, you may not agree with my methods however, try it see if theres any difference in the recovery rate in your birds, gettting your birds right and recovered quickly will increase in your birds performances. You dont give a dehyrated person just water they get saline to prevent further organ damage

giving your birds too much water on return is the worse thing you can do liver damage and kidney damage but hey what do i know i've won many races and took all of the channel adverages for 2 years on the trot a few years ago using my methods my birds have won from 86 miles to 512 miles

i put a tablespoon of electrolytes in a small drinker ( mineral fountain ) and top this with water no more than the depth of my index finger ( from fingertip to 1st crease ) this prevents them guzzling down the water as the water doent cover there beaks. I fly widowhood so they go to there boxes; after a few hours this is replaced by there proper water fountain with the rest of the solution added, as for how do you know there rehydrated you will see the difference in them

paratyphoid???????? i also agree with mixxy only a vet can say, treating blind for illnesses with only end up in your flock becoming prone to disease destroy there immune systems and eventualy ending up with birds that will fail. As for suppliments i believe brewers yeast is probably one thing everyone should have in there cupboards it contains alot of vitamins and minerals great for building a robust immune system

A few people use epsom salts in there water on return there are various salts than can be used you can either buy or make your own electrolytes these will help your birds recover from there race / stress however the branded electrolytes contain essential minerals the later i use on return i don't allow them acess to a full fountain till there salt level is returned or they just flood themselves with water trying to rehydrate without replensing there salts and take longer to recover

well done

i agree with mixxy.Once bird has used it resorces up i.e body fat the body starts going into failure, and stop producing white blood cells and immune system colapes, bird dies from starvation and a secondary illness, its far more important to get the birds salt and mineral levels up 1st and feed lightly and get some vitamins into it, fat seeds would be my 1st choice